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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 18, 2012 4:01 PM
I would be fine with them trading back a few spots and being able to take T-Rich, Michael Floyd and an O-Lineman with their first 3 picks. I think that could be a step in the right direction for the offense. I also wouldnt mind Blackmon, Alshon Jeffery, Kendall Wright, or Sanu as a wr taken...they can also try to get LaMichael James in the 3rd. So they could add some pieces on Offense this year and next year grab their guy to be the QB.
Mar 18, 2012 4:01pm
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Mar 18, 2012 4:02 PM
lhslep134;1120044 wrote:1. Hillis is not a "key player" he had a fluke year

2. Exactly which major playmaker's contract do you suggest we should have taken on? Because I don't see one worth it.
Ok, so we never had a key player on offense and havent attempted anything in free agency. like i said, typical browns. If the Browns want to get a major playmaker, then they will have to over pay because that is the only way they will get one to sign here.
Mar 18, 2012 4:02pm
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Mar 18, 2012 4:28 PM
BR1986FB;1120027 wrote:Might not have to trade up for it. Colts might be worse...
I dunno BR, after cutting Addai, that should be good for at least two more wins for the Colts... right?
Mar 18, 2012 4:28pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:19 PM
Pick6;1120089 wrote:Ok, so we never had a key player on offense and havent attempted anything in free agency. like i said, typical browns. If the Browns want to get a major playmaker, then they will have to over pay because that is the only way they will get one to sign here.
Answer my question: what major playmaker's contract would you have wanted the Browns to take on?
Mar 18, 2012 5:19pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:20 PM
Garcon ^^

Btw looks like flynn signed with seattle 3 years 26 million 10 million guaranteed
Mar 18, 2012 5:20pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:23 PM
That's not really "overpaying" for Flynn.

Can't believe the Browns didn't offer that?
Mar 18, 2012 5:23pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:23 PM
shook_17;1120120 wrote:Garcon ^^

Btw looks like flynn signed with seattle 3 years 26 million 10 million guaranteed
Does not seem like too much to me. Is this excessive?
Mar 18, 2012 5:23pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:27 PM
No. I think that's actually pretty cheap. I was expecting way more.
Mar 18, 2012 5:27pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:28 PM
Again, it's always funny to hear all these rumors about the Browns in free agent talk...it NEVER happens lol
Mar 18, 2012 5:28pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:29 PM
shook_17;1120120 wrote:Garcon ^^
No way. Over the life of the contract the average salary is top 10 money. No thanks.

http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/average/wide-receiver/
Mar 18, 2012 5:29pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:41 PM
SportsAndLady;1120133 wrote:Again, it's always funny to hear all these rumors about the Browns in free agent talk...it NEVER happens lol
lol...true, but gives us false hope and something to bitch about.
Mar 18, 2012 5:41pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:47 PM
lhslep134;1120119 wrote:Answer my question: what major playmaker's contract would you have wanted the Browns to take on?
any of the WRs who have proven themselves. When is the last time somebody has won a super bowl without a legit WR or two?
Mar 18, 2012 5:47pm
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Mar 18, 2012 5:49 PM
Pick6;1120005 wrote:OH REALY? See my sig.
Yes...really! I don't see Pryor on the q back depth chart. Wait, see, and learn. TP WILL be catching footballs and not throwing them. Give it time.
Mar 18, 2012 5:49pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:02 PM
Pick6;1120146 wrote:any of the WRs who have proven themselves. When is the last time somebody has won a super bowl without a legit WR or two?
Stop avoiding my question....which WR's contract would you like to have on our books?

Garcon's 10th highest WR contract?
Vincent Jackson's 3rd highest?

http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/average/wide-receiver/

Both of those are terrible contracts and overpayments. The Browns need to manage their money better than throwing top 10 money on a WR who isn't near top 10 or top 3 money at a WR who isn't top 3.

So, if you could finally answer my question instead of intentionally being vague and avoiding it, it would make debating you a lot easier.
Mar 18, 2012 6:02pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:12 PM
lhslep134;1120134 wrote:No way. Over the life of the contract the average salary is top 10 money. No thanks.

http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/average/wide-receiver/
Ok. Be happy with medericracy. Keep massaqoui and norwood. Give me garcon we have the money, use it. He is in his prime and young. Let's keep drafting second round wide outs, its working out great for this organization.
Mar 18, 2012 6:12pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:14 PM
shook_17;1120168 wrote:Ok. Be happy with medericracy. Keep massaqoui and norwood. Give me garcon we have the money, use it. He is in his prime and young. Let's keep drafting second round wide outs, its working out great for this organization.
Yeah I agree w/ this. You have to overspend sometimes. It's not "our" money. Who cares if they give a bad contract to a good player at a position of need; we need them!
Mar 18, 2012 6:14pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:19 PM
shook_17;1120168 wrote:Ok. Be happy with medericracy. Keep massaqoui and norwood. Give me garcon we have the money, use it. He is in his prime and young. Let's keep drafting second round wide outs, its working out great for this organization.
We're going to take a WR in the 1st round this year. I don't see any reasonable purpose in giving Garcon top 10 money. That's why it was the Redskins who did it.
Mar 18, 2012 6:19pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:22 PM
Garcon has never had 1000 yd season, I'm glad we didn't spend idiotic money on him. Still have yet to see an explanation on how the skins signed him with the cap hit they took.
Mar 18, 2012 6:22pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:23 PM
Mar 18, 2012 6:23pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:26 PM
Commander of Awesome;1120182 wrote:Garcon has never had 1000 yd season, I'm glad we didn't spend idiotic money on him. Still have yet to see an explanation on how the skins signed him with the cap hit they took.
I thought they could defer the hit, no?
Mar 18, 2012 6:26pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:33 PM
He had 974 yards and I think 7 tds. And also had curtis painter / kerry collins throwing to him. Dude is doing something right. Imagine what he could do with our boy mccoy
Mar 18, 2012 6:33pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:34 PM
If I think this is right. the skins had 36 million in cap. Took 18 million hit this year and 18 million next. Not sure how they worked the contracts and not sure if that's what your asking COA
Mar 18, 2012 6:34pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:37 PM
I don't mind building throught the draft...but at the rate we are on, these draft picks will be at the end of their contracts and leaving town. At some point we have to fill some of our positions of need with FA's...and I thought this year was a good time to get a young veteran WR/OL to fill some holes and try to get this team to the playoffs.
Mar 18, 2012 6:37pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:55 PM
Commander of Awesome;1120182 wrote:Garcon has never had 1000 yd season, I'm glad we didn't spend idiotic money on him. Still have yet to see an explanation on how the skins signed him with the cap hit they took.
Exactly. If he was so good the Colts would have made more of an effort to re-sign him, but instead realized throwing that much money at him was stupid.
Mar 18, 2012 6:55pm
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Mar 18, 2012 6:58 PM
^^ they offered him 35 million. Good chunk of change if you ask me
Mar 18, 2012 6:58pm