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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 17, 2012 11:08 PM
I was just getting on here to voice my displeasure in seeing the deal he signed. The only thing I can think that remotely makes sense is that they reached out and he wasn't interested.
Mar 17, 2012 11:08pm
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Mar 17, 2012 11:09 PM
As we go on with this regime and after reading/hearing Holmgren's comments this past week, I don't think that Heckert is the one making the personal decisions.
Mar 17, 2012 11:09pm
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Mar 17, 2012 11:39 PM
Al Bundy;1119858 wrote:As we go on with this regime and after reading/hearing Holmgren's comments this past week, I don't think that Heckert is the one making the personal decisions.
That's why Holmgren is called "The Czar"
Mar 17, 2012 11:39pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:01 AM
The Winston signing I find particularly puzzling. Seemed like a perfect to me.
Mar 18, 2012 12:01am
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Mar 18, 2012 12:18 AM
Commander of Awesome;1119882 wrote:The Winston signing I find particularly puzzling. Seemed like a perfect to me.
He's a free agent, so he's worthless.

/Heckert'd
Mar 18, 2012 12:18am
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Mar 18, 2012 12:30 AM
Mario Manningham is now off the board as it is being reported he signed with the 49ers tonight.

Moss/Manningham/Crabtree/ and Vernon Davis is a hell of a lot of weapons for one QB. I wonder if Peyton Manning noticed?

I would love to know how Heckert plans to fill all our holes because we only have so many picks in the first few rounds (where most impact players are found) and just about all the free agents worth having are off the board.
Mar 18, 2012 12:30am
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Mar 18, 2012 10:33 AM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1119857 wrote:I was just getting on here to voice my displeasure in seeing the deal he signed. The only thing I can think that remotely makes sense is that they reached out and he wasn't interested.
From what I heard, no attempt to reach out to him. I'm getting the feeling more & more that they are comfortable with Lauvao/Pinkston @ the guards and they will use a 1st-3rd on a RT to groom.
Mar 18, 2012 10:33am
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Mar 18, 2012 10:42 AM
[HR][/HR]


Chris Mortensen ‏
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mortreport
If Manning chooses # Titans, QB market gains @
Hasselbeck . What about reunion w his ex-Seahawks coach
(Holmgren) in Cleve n same offense?



http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/03/17/sports/doc4f654b176d664976427396.txt

http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1907516215/Manning-messes-with-Browns

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/03/nfls_track_record_on_building.html
Mar 18, 2012 10:42am
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Mar 18, 2012 12:24 PM

Oh God, Holmgren is probably getting a hard on just reading these rumors......
Mar 18, 2012 12:24pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:48 PM
OQB;1119962 wrote:Oh God, Wes is probably getting a hard on just reading these rumors......
fify
Mar 18, 2012 12:48pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:52 PM
I think Holmgren's "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable" comment is setting the stage to oust Shurmur if he doesn't meet up to these expectations. Also think he knows this team is going to be REAL bad this year and will be in a very good position to get Barkley, hence "rolling with McCoy."
Mar 18, 2012 12:52pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:53 PM
BR1986FB;1119979 wrote:I think Holmgren's "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable" comment is setting the stage to oust Shurmur if he doesn't meet up to these expectations. Also think he knows this team is going to be REAL bad this year and will be in a very good position to get Barkley, hence "rolling with McCoy."
playoffs BR, playoffs
Mar 18, 2012 12:53pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:56 PM
BR1986FB;1119402 wrote:I don't think Shurmur's the problem and Holmgren is going to look REAL foolish after setting the bar with "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable." I understand he has to show optimism but I just don't see this roster conjuring up 4 wins as constructed.

The Browns will host the Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins, and travel to play the Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Indianapolis Colts, Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants. Add in the division opponents and I could see possible wins against Indianapolis and maybe Buffalo or Kansas City, if lucky.

Soooo, the Browns will be lucky to not go winless this year? Got it.
Mar 18, 2012 12:56pm
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Mar 18, 2012 12:59 PM
like_that;1119982 wrote:Soooo, the Browns will be lucky to not go winless this year? Got it.
Agreed
Mar 18, 2012 12:59pm
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Mar 18, 2012 1:00 PM
DeyDurkie5;1119980 wrote:playoffs BR, playoffs
Hmmm...didn't make the playoffs LAST year when the schedule was ridiculously easy compared to this years? Don't think so.
Mar 18, 2012 1:00pm
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Mar 18, 2012 1:34 PM
Im late to the FA party, but god damn.....another year, same old Browns.With money to spend..let one of your key players walk and be passive as fuck in pursuing play makers.

I've liked what they have done in the draft the past few years, but at this rate they will never field a competitive team. IMO they were only a few pieces away from being there, but only are creating more needs.
Mar 18, 2012 1:34pm
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Mar 18, 2012 1:34 PM
Footwedge;1119085 wrote:LOL!.. if you quote me...get it right. I said Pryor would be catchin balls before he's throwin em in the NFL. Fail.
OH REALY? See my sig.
Mar 18, 2012 1:34pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:13 PM
Pick6;1120005 wrote:OH REALY? See my sig.
typical Footwedge, spinning it how he sees fit.
Mar 18, 2012 2:13pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:20 PM
Charlie Campbell's new 2013 mock has the Browns getting the #1 overall pick.

Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
In the next update of my 2012 mock draft, I'll have the Browns selecting either LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne or Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon. The Browns organization is a mess right now
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013charlie.php
Mar 18, 2012 2:20pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:29 PM
Mulva;1120020 wrote:Charlie Campbell's new 2013 mock has the Browns getting the #1 overall pick.

Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC



http://walterfootball.com/draft2013charlie.php
Might not have to trade up for it. Colts might be worse...
Mar 18, 2012 2:29pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:41 PM
Pick6;1120004 wrote:Im late to the FA party, but god damn.....another year, same old Browns.With money to spend..let one of your key players walk and be passive as **** in pursuing play makers.
1. Hillis is not a "key player" he had a fluke year

2. Exactly which major playmaker's contract do you suggest we should have taken on? Because I don't see one worth it.
Mar 18, 2012 2:41pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:42 PM
well if this guy is right, next year is going to suck ass.
Mar 18, 2012 2:42pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:44 PM
lhslep134;1120044 wrote:1. Hillis is not a "key player" he had a fluke year

2. Exactly which major playmaker's contract do you suggest we should have taken on? Because I don't see one worth it.
Winston is probably the only contract I would want the Browns to take on.
Mar 18, 2012 2:44pm
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Mar 18, 2012 2:50 PM
like_that;1120046 wrote:Winston is probably the only contract I would want the Browns to take on.
I agree. Possibly Grubbs, but if the Browns can bring Steinbach back at a reduced price I'm OK with that too.
Mar 18, 2012 2:50pm
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Mar 18, 2012 3:37 PM
lhslep134;1120052 wrote:I agree. Possibly Grubbs, but if the Browns can bring Steinbach back at a reduced price I'm OK with that too.
They need to bring him back. It needs to get done.
Mar 18, 2012 3:37pm