BR1986FB;1115747 wrote:If they could secure Tate & Flynn that would be a good start. With the way they are dragging their feet on the WR issue, I'd almost think that Blackmon would HAVE to be the target at #4.

wes_mantooth;1115750 wrote:I would absolutely love that pick, but I still think they need to sign a veteran to help him out/mentor.

BR1986FB;1115752 wrote:There's virtually NOTHING left. We're looking at guys like Mark Clayton, etc now.

Adam Schefter said something to the effect of "the first two days of FA are like shopping at Niemann Marcus...after that, it's picking through the bins at Walmart."

wes_mantooth;1115754 wrote:Well, knowing the Browns....they probably won't draft Blackmon anyhow. More than likely we will trade down several times until we are sitting with the #22 and #23 pick.

royal_k;1115758 wrote:I would trade picks with St Louis and add another pick. They would still be picking at #6. Or stay put and take Blackmon. Either way I'd be happy.

BR1986FB;1115763 wrote:If you trade down with St Louis, you don't add another "pick." You make them bleed from the ass after playing you against Washington to drive up the price for RG3. I've heard that the Browns would be VERY reluctant to deal with the Rams after this unless the deal were pretty sweet.

And BTW, in typical Cleveland "fashion" I'm expecting them to be left out in the cold in their QB search. I expect another year of supremely shitty offense on the lake.

I know most don't agree, but I would prefer Kolb.

IggyPride00;1115764 wrote:I have never seen less urgency from a regime than I see from H & H as far as building a team.

We are getting lapped by the tortoise (and can't even see the hare) right now if that is possible.

Throw out the 5 year plan, at this rate we are on the 50 year plan.

BR1986FB;1115763 wrote:If you trade down with St Louis, you don't add another "pick." You make them bleed from the ass after playing you against Washington to drive up the price for RG3. I've heard that the Browns would be VERY reluctant to deal with the Rams after this unless the deal were pretty sweet.

And BTW, in typical Cleveland "fashion" I'm expecting them to be left out in the cold in their QB search. I expect another year of supremely shitty offense on the lake.

wes_mantooth;1115767 wrote:I would prefer that over a ridiculous contract for Flynn who probably isn't a huge stepup. I know most don't agree, but I would prefer Kolb.

BR1986FB;1115774 wrote:At this point I'd be fine if Kolb became available but I'm doubting that Flynn will get a ridiculous contract.

If he was going to get an excessive contract, someone would've pounced on him in the first hour of FA and it would've been a "done deal."

What this says to me is that the market isn't as scorching for Mr Flynn as he and his camp thought it would be.

The Browns have said that there would be interest but they had a certain "threshold" that they wouldn't exceed.

derek bomar;1115731 wrote:maybe I missed it... what are they looking to give up for Tate?

Commander of Awesome;1115787 wrote:a first? GTFO. I don't want to give up a 2nd for Ben Tate.

like_that;1115788 wrote:+1. Fuck that shit. Sorry, but that is a ridiculous demand for a backup RB. WTF is up with these teams and their ridiculous demands recently?

bases_loaded;1115792 wrote:Tate is worth a 2nd rounder.

wes_mantooth;1115791 wrote:I like Tate....I would be ok with a 2nd.

IggyPride00;1115789 wrote:Is Tate that much of an upgrade over Hillis that it is worth giving up a high 2nd round pick for?