wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 28, 2011 10:35pm
Marvin shot 51%, 43% from 3, and 85% FT. Played 22 min/game as a FRESHMAN, scored 11 a game and grabbed 7 boards.
What is wildly inconsistent about that?
What is wildly inconsistent about that?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
JJ Reddick
Shelden Williams
Mike Dunleavy
Dhantay Jones
Trajan Langdon
Shavlik Randolph
John Wall
Jeff Green
Better: Kevin Love
Lamarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Al Horford
Pls be honest on the worse....you didn't think for a second most of those Dukies were going to be better than they are/were
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
Yes. He also hit the game winner on senior day in Chapel Hill against Dook.Laley23;1029643 wrote:Come on man. He was behind 2 MCD AA. 1 a SR (Williams) and 1 a JR (Sean May). Dont go overboard like he was buried in the doghouse lol.
When it mattered, vs Illinois, Marvin was in and hit the go ahead basket to win the title. I dont remember exactly, but once he got accustomed to the college game, it seemed his play took off (right around conference play maybe..UNC fans??)
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
Trajan Langdon hasn't been mentioned, he was the worst.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 28, 2011 10:38pm
jordo, please just stop.
You're getting a Clipper sized beat down right now.
Or a Phoenix sized beat down.. Holy shit is that game out of hand.
You're getting a Clipper sized beat down right now.
Or a Phoenix sized beat down.. Holy shit is that game out of hand.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:39pm
What was his expectations? Few Dukies at that time had ever amounted to anything in the NBA....I did think he might be a 8-12 ppg game guy barely starting for a bad team or coming off the bench.
I forget, how high was he drafted? 7th?
I forget, how high was he drafted? 7th?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
I knew they wouldn't be very good but I didn't think they would be as bad as they have been. Isn't that the question "who is worse than you thought"?Ironman92;1029651 wrote:Pls be honest on the worse....you didn't think for a second most of those Dukies were going to be better than they are/were
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
wildcats20;1029649 wrote:Marvin shot 51%, 43% from 3, and 85% FT. Played 22 min/game as a FRESHMAN, scored 11 a game and grabbed 7 boards.
What is wildly inconsistent about that?
Look at his game logs again
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 28, 2011 10:41pm
11th.Ironman92;1029658 wrote:What was his expectations? Few Dukies at that time had ever amounted to anything in the NBA....I did think he might be a 8-12 ppg game guy barely starting for a bad team or coming off the bench.
I forget, how high was he drafted? 7th?
I thought JJ would be a HUGE bust. But he has exceeded my expectations.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 28, 2011 10:44pm
yeah, I was going more on him piggybacking Lebron in HS. There was a lot of hype then...and you are right, he was a very good, not great player in college.Ironman92;1029615 wrote:He wasn't as dominate at USC as I expected....he's close to what I guessed
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:45pm
Skyhook79;1029659 wrote:I knew they wouldn't be very good but I didn't think they would be as bad as they have been. Isn't that the question "who is worse than you thought"?
I just have a hard time believing Redick and Duhon are not as good as you expected. I can't believe Duhon got 1/3 as much playing as he did/does.....and you did not think Redick would be around double digits scoring on a top 4 playoff seed.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:47pm
And as a Duke fan....can't believe Sheldon Williams even made the league for more than a year or two
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 28, 2011 10:48pm
DeMarcus averaged a double double in his rookie season.
Rajon Rondo's lack of perceived talent can be attributed to the awful Tubby Smith.
Rondo under a coach like Calipari would've been a top 3-5 lottery pick.
Rajon Rondo's lack of perceived talent can be attributed to the awful Tubby Smith.
Rondo under a coach like Calipari would've been a top 3-5 lottery pick.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 28, 2011 10:48pm
He had multiple offers to come and try and play in the league, he chose to stay overseas where he would have made more money anyway.Ironman92;1029660 wrote:I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:51pm
Brooke Lopez to the surprised list for me
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 28, 2011 10:51pm
Especially in that draft. One of the worst I can remember.Azubuike24;1029670 wrote:DeMarcus averaged a double double in his rookie season.
Rajon Rondo's lack of perceived talent can be attributed to the awful Tubby Smith.
Rondo under a coach like Calipari would've been a top 3-5 lottery pick.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 28, 2011 10:52pm
Ironman92;1029660 wrote:I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.
Scoonie is still one of my favorite Buckeyes but I didn't really see him as an NBA guy.
Mike Redd was one who surprised me though
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 28, 2011 10:53pm
Those guys got a bad rep at Stanford because of the Collins brothers. Robin was close to them, but Brooke was MUCH better.Ironman92;1029673 wrote:Brooke Lopez to the surprised list for me
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 10:53pm
Didn't expect much....but thought Kosta Koufas would've been at least a contributor off the bench.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 28, 2011 10:54pm
Kenyon Martin is one that turned out much better than I thought he would be.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 28, 2011 10:57pm
Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.Ironman92;1029668 wrote:And as a Duke fan....can't believe Sheldon Williams even made the league for more than a year or two
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 28, 2011 10:59pm
Since I just saw he got a flagrant 2 tonight....Drew Gooden. And because I know the talent he actually possess, he is just too big of a pussy to showcase it...Jared Jeffries.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 28, 2011 11:00pm
JJ couldn't and still can't get his own shot.Skyhook79;1029682 wrote:Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2011 11:04pm
Skyhook79;1029682 wrote:Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.
But YOU didn't think that. You didn't think Redick was going for 15 ppg because he led the ACC scoring record.
Was he over 10 ppg last year? Did you think Chris Corchiani was going to go for 5-7 assists per game?