Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 4, 2012 2:38pm
Hmm, not sure I like that deal for Pacers.
Edit: More I think about it the more I think it gives them an instant upgrade on offense, but I've always been high on Collison. Steve Nash is pretty old and has a history of back issues. that's a bit scary to give up on a nice young piece for Nash who when healthy gives you instant offense and a shooting threat.
However the Pacers are what 4-1 right now with all 4 or 5 of their biggest minutes guys shooting under 40%. that trend isn't going to continue.
I haven't watched any of the Pacers games this season so I cant say how Collison has played this season.
Edit: More I think about it the more I think it gives them an instant upgrade on offense, but I've always been high on Collison. Steve Nash is pretty old and has a history of back issues. that's a bit scary to give up on a nice young piece for Nash who when healthy gives you instant offense and a shooting threat.
However the Pacers are what 4-1 right now with all 4 or 5 of their biggest minutes guys shooting under 40%. that trend isn't going to continue.
I haven't watched any of the Pacers games this season so I cant say how Collison has played this season.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 4, 2012 2:58pm
Collison is having a solid year. He was a dissapointment last year, but this season is averaging 7 assists...but he isnt a scorer. Only 10 pts per game. Last year was 12, so I wouldnt expect it to go up much. Collison can improve going forward with his career. But if the Pacers dont see him as the PG of the future (and I dont think they do) than going "win now" it might not be a bad trade. By win now, I mean Nash helps them this season and maybe next. After that Nash is likely done and Collison may be the better option. But the team is young, and have plenty of time to get a Nash replacement. So it isnt a true Win Now, Suffer Later. Its more Win Now, Win Later with a new PG.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2012 4:10pm
I definitely wouldn't make that trade if I'm the Pacers. Nash is about to be 38 and he's only averaging 11 ppg right now. With his complete lack of anything resembling defense, if he isn't putting up big offensive numbers he's basically worthless.
Even if they aren't sold on him being the PG of the future, I think he's more valuable right now than Nash is at this point in their respective careers.
Even if they aren't sold on him being the PG of the future, I think he's more valuable right now than Nash is at this point in their respective careers.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 4, 2012 4:12pm
Nash also had bruised ribs to start the year and couldnt shoot. Last game was the best they had felt (healed) and he went like 9/13 and scored 21 pts.Mulva;1038878 wrote:I definitely wouldn't make that trade if I'm the Pacers. Nash is about to be 38 and he's only averaging 11 ppg right now. With his complete lack of anything resembling defense, if he isn't putting up big offensive numbers he's basically worthless.
Even if they aren't sold on him being the PG of the future, I think he's more valuable right now than Nash is at this point in their respective careers.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 4, 2012 4:47pm
Or not...2quik4u;1038042 wrote:first post on this thread and people already on my meat
Also, it's actually broad and not board.2quik4u;1033471 wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/heat/story/2012-01-01/lebron-james-engaged/52316956/1
Lol at this board getting a ring before Lebron
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 4, 2012 4:52pm
PG-Nash
SG-??
SF-Hansbrough
PF-Amundson
C-Foster
This team would not be done making trades yet.
SG-??
SF-Hansbrough
PF-Amundson
C-Foster
This team would not be done making trades yet.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 4, 2012 5:00pm
What team are you trying to fill out???? Pacers?sportswizuhrd;1038937 wrote:PG-Nash
SG-??
SF-Hansbrough
PF-Amundson
C-Foster
This team would not be done making trades yet.
Starters/Back-ups
Nash/Hill
George/Jones
Granger/Jones
West/Hansborough
Hibbert/Foster
That is their 9 deep once Foster is healthy.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 4, 2012 5:13pm
what lolsportswizuhrd;1038937 wrote:PG-Nash
SG-??
SF-Hansbrough
PF-Amundson
C-Foster
This team would not be done making trades yet.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 4, 2012 6:17pm
Look a little more closely...It matches the type of players they are perceived to go after.Laley23;1038943 wrote:What team are you trying to fill out???? Pacers?
Starters/Back-ups
Nash/Hill
George/Jones
Granger/Jones
West/Hansborough
Hibbert/Foster
That is their 9 deep once Foster is healthy.
But seriously, why is AJ Price(former UConn Husky,thats why I follow him) not getting much burn? Not trying to say he should or shouldn't be, because I don't know.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 4, 2012 6:22pm
Jokesportswizuhrd;1039004 wrote:Look a little more closely...It matches the type of players they are perceived to go after.
But seriously, why is AJ Price(former UConn Husky,thats why I follow him) not getting much burn? Not trying to say he should or shouldn't be, because I don't know.
My Head.
Anyway, Paul George sounds like a white name, so that would work right? lol And he isnt getting much time, imo, because they have George Hill running a pseudo PG spot. Im not sure how effective it can be, but they havent played anyone good yet so who knows. Price is really they only TRUE PG after Collison, so you would think he would be the 2nd teamer, especially with some ok minutes last year.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2012 6:32pm
Zach Randolph is out 6-8 weeks. Memphis is in trouble.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 4, 2012 6:32pm
That was the joke after the Jazz took Gordon Hayward, that they would take Paul George because his name sounded like that of a white guy's.Laley23;1039008 wrote:Joke
My Head.
Anyway, Paul George sounds like a white name, so that would work right? lol And he isnt getting much time, imo, because they have George Hill running a pseudo PG spot. Im not sure how effective it can be, but they havent played anyone good yet so who knows. Price is really they only TRUE PG after Collison, so you would think he would be the 2nd teamer, especially with some ok minutes last year.
Yeah I saw that Price got minutes last year, so I was surprised that he wasn't this year. With your 9 deep, who would be the 10th? Price and move Hill to SG? If they do get Nash, a PG might have to play more minutes. Who knows, they might have to give up Jones or Price to get Nash.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 4, 2012 6:38pm
I think Price will see minutes go up. My 9 deep was more based off of what Ive seen. I dont see how George Hill can cut it playing PG minutes all year.sportswizuhrd;1039013 wrote:That was the joke after the Jazz took Gordon Hayward, that they would take Paul George because his name sounded like that of a white guy's.
Yeah I saw that Price got minutes last year, so I was surprised that he wasn't this year. With your 9 deep, who would be the 10th? Price and move Hill to SG? If they do get Nash, a PG might have to play more minutes. Who knows, they might have to give up Jones or Price to get Nash.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 4, 2012 8:53pm
I make that trade right now if I am Indy. No questions asked
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2012 9:39pm
Ryan Anderson is really playing well for Orlando. Easily the MIP to this early point. 23 and 15 tonight.
And Granger is really not playing well for Indiana. Pacers should have made that draft trade with Minnesota. George is more of a natural SF anyway.
Actually I can't say easily the MIP, because Mullens would probably be in that discussion too right now.
And Granger is really not playing well for Indiana. Pacers should have made that draft trade with Minnesota. George is more of a natural SF anyway.
Actually I can't say easily the MIP, because Mullens would probably be in that discussion too right now.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 4, 2012 9:48pm
Pretty entertaining game with Memphis and Minny.
wildcats20
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Jan 4, 2012 10:08pm
lol at Steph Curry. Hurt his ankle AGAIN.
wildcats20
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Jan 4, 2012 10:11pm
Ooooh..
With Manu out, that means one of my favorite Tar Heels get some more minutes. Danny Green. I only hope they let him dance pregame. lol
With Manu out, that means one of my favorite Tar Heels get some more minutes. Danny Green. I only hope they let him dance pregame. lol
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2012 10:11pm
Steph needs some new shoes and an ankle brace.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2012 10:13pm
Apparently he did change up his shoes last week. Strike my last comment.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jan 4, 2012 11:02pm
Philadelphia wins behind a 21-6-4 from Evan Turner. Nice to see him have a good game.
wildcats20
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Jan 4, 2012 11:05pm
Clippers score 41 in the first quarter and are up 15 on the Rockets.
Rough LA trip for Houston.
Rough LA trip for Houston.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 4, 2012 11:05pm
John Wall is shooting 32% so far this year, not good
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 4, 2012 11:08pm
Clips get that 41 so I had to look up the quarter scoring record...
That is just stupid.
- Most points in a quarter
- 58 by the Buffalo Braves at the Boston Celtics on October 20, 1972 (4th quarter)
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 4, 2012 11:09pm
So I also had to look up fewest points...
How do you only score 2 points in a quarter in the NBA???
- Fewest points in a quarter
- 2 by the Dallas Mavericks at the Los Angeles Lakers on April 6, 1997 (3rd quarter)
- 2 by the Golden State Warriors vs. the Toronto Raptors on February 8, 2004 (4th quarter)