Random NBA Chatter - Season long thread

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Jan 2, 2012 9:56pm
wildcats20;1036136 wrote:Well the Heat won't go undefeated.

The Hawks behind T Mac are going to beat them in Miami tonight.
Zone defense seems the best way to beat them still, slow the game down and control tempo. DWade laid an egg tonight as well and hasn't seemed 100% so far this year.
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Jan 2, 2012 10:06pm
Knicks lose at HOME against the Raptors.
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Jan 2, 2012 10:11pm
Magic lose to the Pistons
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Jan 2, 2012 10:17pm
Schedule makers must love the Celtics, they got to play the Wizards in back to back nights.
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Jan 2, 2012 10:24pm
Spurs lose to Wolves. Strange night in the NBA.
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Jan 2, 2012 10:28pm
hoops23;1036110 wrote:Lol you're crazy if you don't think he'd be the same head case in Philly.
He would be. That wasn't my point. My point is, he's 21. If this passes, those talents could turn into a superstar. Many stars had issues at an early age. That was my argument in taking him over Turner. Turner is the anti-thesis of Cousins in many ways...but one of those ways, despite the negatives against DeMarcus (which are the positives for Turner), isn't being a better player.

Maybe I'll eat my words on this, but I feel strongly about it. Go big or go home...the Sixers went conservative and will end up settling.
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Jan 2, 2012 10:34pm
Jesus,Melo took 31 shots. Thats ridiculous

Edit: Just saw Amare didnt play so thats probably why, but still
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Jan 2, 2012 11:22pm
OKC loses as well, no more undefeateds.
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Jan 2, 2012 11:32pm
No true champion again this year. :(
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Jan 2, 2012 11:34pm
Manu is out for awhile with a broken hand. Oh darn.
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Jan 3, 2012 12:17am
wildcats20;1036367 wrote:Manu is out for awhile with a broken hand. Oh darn.
Kobe shakes his head.
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Jan 3, 2012 7:55am
wildcats20;1036367 wrote:Manu is out for awhile with a broken hand. Oh darn.
Who didn't see that one coming? /sarcasm He's hurt every year it seems.
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Jan 3, 2012 11:00am
Azubuike24;1036273 wrote:Go big or go home...the Sixers went conservative and will end up settling.
Taking the national player of the year is going conservative? Is that waht you are trying to say?
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Jan 3, 2012 11:31am
SportsAndLady;1036689 wrote:Taking the national player of the year is going conservative? Is that waht you are trying to say?
You gotta kind of agree. It was pretty much the same across the board from the experts that Turner had kind of plateaued. Cousins had a higher ceiling, as did a few others.
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Jan 3, 2012 11:40am
Laley23;1036724 wrote:You gotta kind of agree. It was pretty much the same across the board from the experts that Turner had kind of plateaued. Cousins had a higher ceiling, as did a few others.
I never saw the huge upside in Cousins, so maybe I'm just looking at this biasedly (pretty sure that's not a word..)

I mean sure, he's a talent. But with how fucking nuts the guy is, and how many big men fail in the NBA...I was more a fan of the Turner pick for the Sixers.

I still think ET is going to be a good player for the Sixers.
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Jan 3, 2012 11:56am
I haven't seen Turner play enough to really judge his performance. That being said looking at his stats I would have thought he'd be putting up better numbers than he has thus far.
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Jan 3, 2012 6:05pm
Cousins was drafted at age 19. Turner was 22. That alone, in basketball terms, limits your potential. Cousins came in without discipline and a body that was not in-shape at all and by the end of the season was still the best big man in college basketball.

Now, whether he will ever "get it" and make ammends for the question marks is another thing, but talent-wise, I'm not sure how anyone could say they didn't see the potential.

Like I said, I might be wrong, but I'd rather draft the head case with talent over a limited-upside player who plays a position you already have covered 3-fold on the roster. This is, of course, you are already a contending team who is filling a specific role to compete for a title. The Sixers were not doing that...hence, the reason they were drafting in the top 5.
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Jan 3, 2012 7:30pm
Cousins has the physical potential to be a top 10 NBA big man. His ceiling is much higher than Turners.
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Jan 3, 2012 7:45pm
thedynasty1998;1037184 wrote:Cousins has the physical potential to be a top 10 NBA big man. His ceiling is much higher than Turners.

I couldn't even name 10 good big men...big men being centers. Its not a center dominant league
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Jan 3, 2012 7:58pm
SportsAndLady;1037196 wrote:I couldn't even name 10 good big men...big men being centers. Its not a center dominant league
Exactly. But I was including PF. Top 10 might be a stretch, but Cousins has crazy talent.
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Jan 3, 2012 8:13pm
Mullens has really turned the corner in terms of his confidence, playing very well tonight as he has all season.
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Jan 3, 2012 8:16pm
Top 10 4 or 5? You're fuckin crazy dynasty
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Jan 3, 2012 8:19pm
SportsAndLady;1037214 wrote:Top 10 4 or 5? You're ****in crazy dynasty
Name 10 better
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Jan 3, 2012 8:21pm
^ I actually think it's valid. Cousins has all the tools to get there.
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Jan 3, 2012 8:22pm
robj55;1037216 wrote:Name 10 better
Really?

Marc and Pau Gasol
Al Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Al Horford
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudamire
Zach Randolph
Chrish Bosh
Louis Scola
Ibaka
Dirk
Bynum
Giffin

There's 14. That was me thinking about it for 2 sec.