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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 24, 2011 9:34pm
Well, apparently Shurmur wasn't as dumb as we thought on that run at the end of the half that ran out the clock. When asked in his presser, Shurmur said "I would never call a run." Shurmur was yelling to Wallace "clock, clock, clock" as to indicate "spike the ball." Wallace, in his presser, admitted this and said HE called the audible (run play) thinking the Browns would "catch them off guard."
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 24, 2011 9:54pm
Nice to know. All of a sudden Wallace thinks he is Willy Beaman, and he can call his own plays. Shurmur should have benched his ass.BR1986FB;1026388 wrote:Well, apparently Shurmur wasn't as dumb as we thought on that run at the end of the half that ran out the clock. When asked in his presser, Shurmur said "I would never call a run." Shurmur was yelling to Wallace "clock, clock, clock" as to indicate "spike the ball." Wallace, in his presser, admitted this and said HE called the audible (run play) thinking the Browns would "catch them off guard."
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 24, 2011 9:59pm
lol...I guess there is a reason that Wallace was a career backup.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Dec 24, 2011 10:15pm
So assuming Indy does take Luck, are we focusing now on taking RGIII with Barkley not coming out? Or just take a WR/OL/LB, 2 out of the 3 with our 2 1st rd picks?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 24, 2011 10:37pm
its gotta be RGIII. heckert has ties to deshaun jackson so i wouldn't be surprised if that opened up a little door to bring im to cleveland. i think the second first round pick is a wide out in either jeffery from south carolina, floyd from nd, or wright from baylor. lb or rt in the second round.zach24oz;1026405 wrote:So assuming Indy does take Luck, are we focusing now on taking RGIII with Barkley not coming out? Or just take a WR/OL/LB, 2 out of the 3 with our 2 1st rd picks?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 24, 2011 10:52pm
Fuckin Seneca..
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 24, 2011 10:54pm
Like Mantooth said. A guy is a 7 yr back-up QB for a reason.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Dec 24, 2011 11:05pm
I would be fine with giving DJax a shot in Cleveland...think we have enough to try and get him and say Colston? Wouldnt that totally change things around having Little, Jackson, and Colston to go with RGIII? More than likely not even close to happening, but it's nice to think about.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 25, 2011 12:24am
Greg Little has had a better rookie season than Michael Crabtree did.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 25, 2011 7:31am
Greg Little could be a stud... just needs to get more stickem
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 25, 2011 9:42am
You guys might think I'm nuts but I think this team can play with ANYONE on ANY Sunday. Imagine how much better these guys would be if they had a "good" QB? Wallace has shown that he's nothing more than a backup but I gotta believe that had #12 been under center yesterday things would've gotten out of hand quickly and this game doesn't end up this close.
I'm also firmly in the camp of "bring Hillis back" but at a reasonable cost. I think that bridge may have been burnt though. When used PROPERLY (and when he stays HEALTHY), Hillis gives the QB a lot of relief and he'd be perfect as a security blanket for an RG3 or, dare I say, Luck until they can get their feet under them.
I'm also firmly in the camp of "bring Hillis back" but at a reasonable cost. I think that bridge may have been burnt though. When used PROPERLY (and when he stays HEALTHY), Hillis gives the QB a lot of relief and he'd be perfect as a security blanket for an RG3 or, dare I say, Luck until they can get their feet under them.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 25, 2011 9:44am
I am ok with Hillis, I see him as serviceable.
I do not want to see them draft Richardson.
I do not want to see them draft Richardson.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 25, 2011 9:46am
Yeah, I was ok with Richardson until I saw where some of the top backs were drafted. They have other needs (quarterback) they can use that first pick with.wes_mantooth;1026547 wrote:I am ok with Hillis, I see him as serviceable.
I do not want to see them draft Richardson.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 25, 2011 9:52am
The fact is that feature backs (not named Peterson) are not exactly worth the price given the current state of the league (pass happy, strongly officiated against defense). Hillis while decent is expendable if the price is too high.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 25, 2011 9:57am
Well, I am afraid that since Richardson is from the SEC, I won't have good enough vision to witness all of his speed.BR1986FB;1026549 wrote:Yeah, I was ok with Richardson until I saw where some of the top backs were drafted. They have other needs (quarterback) they can use that first pick with.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 25, 2011 9:57am
I agree if the price is too high.ytownfootball;1026550 wrote:The fact is that feature backs (not named Peterson) are not exactly worth the price given the current state of the league (pass happy, strongly officiated against defense). Hillis while decent is expendable if the price is too high.
And for the poster who keeps saying that Cribbs is the Browns best "weapon?" He's not. It's probably Hillis and there's a good chance he walks in the offseason.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 25, 2011 9:58am
Can't believe it's 10am and I'm the only one awake in the house. Presents still wrapped. Lazy asses....
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 25, 2011 10:01am
Hillis showed yesterday he can still be a weapon. Although, there were a couple runs that could have gone for much longer if he had the ability to change direction or have a better burst. But, I still want no part of drafting a RB in the 1st round.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 25, 2011 10:02am
I'll agree Hillis can be when healthy. I'll also agree that Little can be. I still stick to my opinion of it being Cribbs, though.BR1986FB;1026554 wrote:I agree if the price is too high.
And for the poster who keeps saying that Cribbs is the Browns best "weapon?" He's not. It's probably Hillis and there's a good chance he walks in the offseason.
Also, wake their lazy asses up.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 25, 2011 10:03am
I agree that Hillis is the weapon, and that HAS to change, as he becomes the defensive key in critical situations, especially with Shurmer's effin play calling. Going forth into negotiations this will need emphasized to he and his agent that he won't be the feature situation and he won't be when he goes elsewhere either.BR1986FB;1026554 wrote:I agree if the price is too high.
And for the poster who keeps saying that Cribbs is the Browns best "weapon?" He's not. It's probably Hillis and there's a good chance he walks in the offseason.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 25, 2011 10:04am
He slipped on that one run and had a lot of real estate ahead of him. Also that screen pass that Wallace threw off his back foot would've been a 1st down.royal_k;1026559 wrote:Hillis showed yesterday he can still be a weapon. Although, there were a couple runs that could have gone for much longer if he had the ability to change direction or have a better burst. But, I still want no part of drafting a RB in the 1st round.
As an FYI. If Jax beats Indy and Minnesota beats Chicago (very possible), the Browns would likely slide into the #3 slot in the draft. This would leave 1) Indy 2) St Louis 3) Cleveland.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 25, 2011 10:10am
Yeah, on the one where he slipped, that could have gone to the house. And it's not the first time it's happened this year.BR1986FB;1026563 wrote:He slipped on that one run and had a lot of real estate ahead of him. Also that screen pass that Wallace threw off his back foot would've been a 1st down.
As an FYI. If Jax beats Indy and Minnesota beats Chicago (very possible), the Browns would likely slide into the #3 slot in the draft. This would leave 1) Indy 2) St Louis 3) Cleveland.
And that scenario is very possible. Drafting 3rd would put us in a great spot to either use the pick or trade down for multiple picks.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 25, 2011 10:29am
BR1986FB;1026545 wrote:You guys might think I'm nuts but I think this team can play with ANYONE on ANY Sunday. Imagine how much better these guys would be if they had a "good" QB? Wallace has shown that he's nothing more than a backup but I gotta believe that had #12 been under center yesterday things would've gotten out of hand quickly and this game doesn't end up this close.
Lol yeah you're fuckin crazy
But im used to it now, u just gotta get your daily bash McCoy fix in..understandable
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 25, 2011 10:48am
the browns are definitely competitive...but the fact that just last week you were saying that they could be the worst team in the league kind of makes that claim bs. They aren't a good team, until they get playmakers. It just needs to happen. hell, we've been in almost every game this year with that offense. I can't imagine what we could do with a bunch of playmakers on the team. The fact remains, if we don't draft offense and then get some playmakers in free agency, it will be another 3 win season. Also..durpmur needs to get the f out of town.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Dec 25, 2011 10:52am
Let's face it. Shurmer isn't going anywhere. And yesterday's game is proof enough that this team is close. They will address the offense this offseason and hopefully next year the close losses will go the other way.