like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 24, 2011 4:04pm
Browns will end up on "C'mon man" for how they ended both halves.
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chippy10
Posts: 108
Dec 24, 2011 4:06pm
this draft is crucial if we fuck it up again. this team will never be good ever. im frustated and sick of losing. Im the cleveland sports fan with no toys at christmas and im sick of it.
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Dec 24, 2011 4:09pm
Fifychippy10;1026206 wrote:this team will never be good ever.
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 4:13pm
Look, I've been a Browns fan for 50+ years. I've seen/suffered through everything there is to see/suffer through. I've become as jaded as they come. My hope before I die is to at least see the Browns in a Super Bowl. (I don't even dare to hope they actually win one; I know the limitations of my dreams...). There is no possible way we can get ANYWHERE close to that with this roster. The better draft picks we get, the better hope is that somewhere years from now we can be a contender. Maybe shurmur will pull a Davis and get stressed out and quit, and we can get a real coach to help is get there. In the meantime, one flippin win here or there means nothing to me.Mulva;1026143 wrote:The point of competition is to win.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Dec 24, 2011 4:16pm
Agreed it was terrible how they ended the first half but even worse was that offside to end the game.like_that;1026200 wrote:Browns will end up on "C'mon man" for how they ended both halves.
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Dec 24, 2011 4:18pm
[video=youtube;IMk5sMHj58I][/video]ricola;1026219 wrote:Look, I've been a Browns fan for 50+ years. I've seen/suffered through everything there is to see/suffer through. I've become as jaded as they come. My hope before I die is to at least see the Browns in a Super Bowl. (I don't even dare to hope they actually win one; I know the limitations of my dreams...). There is no possible way we can get ANYWHERE close to that with this roster. The better draft picks we get, the better hope is that somewhere years from now we can be a contender. Maybe shurmur will pull a Davis and get stressed out and quit, and we can get a real coach to help is get there. In the meantime, one flippin win here or there means nothing to me.
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 4:21pm
sorry my work firewall/filter doesn't show me your educated response...
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 24, 2011 4:37pm
I didn't get to watch the game, because of a family thing, but on the way home....some of the cleveland media were saying that the Browns were tanking, because there is no way clock management and playcalling can be that bad. Opinions?
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 4:38pm
It's been that bad all year
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Dec 24, 2011 4:39pm
You play to win the game vidricola;1026229 wrote:sorry my work firewall/filter doesn't show me your educated response...
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 24, 2011 4:40pm
wes_mantooth;1026257 wrote:I didn't get to watch the game, because of a family thing, but on the way home....some of the cleveland media were saying that the Browns were tanking, because there is no way clock management and playcalling can be that bad. Opinions?
I think the coaching staff is just that inept
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 24, 2011 4:41pm
Im so tired of people thinking teams "tank" if the Colts were tanking, they wouldnt have beaten the damn Texans this week.wes_mantooth;1026257 wrote:I didn't get to watch the game, because of a family thing, but on the way home....some of the cleveland media were saying that the Browns were tanking, because there is no way clock management and playcalling can be that bad. Opinions?
Did a Browns coach tell Phil Taylor to jump offsides?
This is the NFL. You play to win, not for a draft position.
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Dec 24, 2011 4:42pm
It was as bad as a piece of moldy white bread with a huge Rottweiler turd on it.wes_mantooth;1026257 wrote:I didn't get to watch the game, because of a family thing, but on the way home....some of the cleveland media were saying that the Browns were tanking, because there is no way clock management and playcalling can be that bad. Opinions?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 24, 2011 4:49pm
Pick6;1026266 wrote:Im so tired of people thinking teams "tank" if the Colts were tanking, they wouldnt have beaten the damn Texans this week.
Did a Browns coach tell Phil Taylor to jump offsides?
This is the NFL. You play to win, not for a draft position.
I agree but a coach told packers defenders to untie Suhs shoelaces throughout the game so a coaching telling Taylor to jump offsides isnt so crazy to believe lol
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 5:43pm
I agree. Every player/team should play to win--- every play; every game. You're not a pro if you do otherwise. as a fan, however, I feel free to hope my team tanks/loses (in certain situations anyways) to possibly improve things down the road. Tho, in this situation the odds of that happening are pretty slim.
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 5:45pm
fair enough.[INDENT]I agree. Every player/team should play to win--- every play; every game. You're not a pro if you do otherwise. as a fan, however, I feel free to hope my team tanks/loses (in certain situations anyways) to possibly improve things down the road. Tho, in this situation the odds of that happening are pretty slim. [/INDENT]
ricola
Posts: 855
Dec 24, 2011 5:46pm
[INDENT]fair enough. [INDENT]I agree. Every player/team should play to win--- every play; every game. You're not a pro if you do otherwise. as a fan, however, I feel free to hope my team tanks/loses (in certain situations anyways) to possibly improve things down the road. Tho, in this situation the odds of that happening are pretty slim. [/INDENT]DeadliestWarrior34;1026263 wrote:You play to win the game vid
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DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 24, 2011 5:49pm
People go into this game like we were supposed to win...only helps us in the future..I'm just glad that they made it close and covered the spread. On to the next loss and then the draft
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2011 7:15pm
like that can do whatever he wants but can't take anything back. Poor fella.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Dec 24, 2011 7:25pm
yeah, i couldn't care less about that...just get this season over with the highest draft slot possibleIronman92;1026149 wrote:Cleveland fans should want their team to decide who wins the North.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 24, 2011 7:41pm
??Ironman92;1026349 wrote:like that can do whatever he wants but can't take anything back. Poor fella.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 24, 2011 7:56pm
dazedconfused;1026351 wrote:yeah, i couldn't care less about that...just get this season over with the highest draft slot possible
Lol seriously
"Yes we beat the ravens to improve to 5-10 but the real accomplishment was knocking the ravens whom we hate out for the Steelers whom we hate"
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Dec 24, 2011 8:22pm
Your examples don't really work haha... One is used to help your team win the game and the other makes your team lose. I will agree tho that a coach would tell a player to do pretty much anything to try and help the team win.SportsAndLady;1026282 wrote:I agree but a coach told packers defenders to untie Suhs shoelaces throughout the game so a coaching telling Taylor to jump offsides isnt so crazy to believe lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 24, 2011 8:53pm
Just getting on here after watching. They fought hard and were in it but got drilled in the ass by their own head coach and Phil Taylor's buffoonery.
Between Shurmur's throwing (Wallace interception) on 3rd & 1, his Keytone Cops' playcalling at the end of the half and calling a screen to Hillis on 4th & 5 he should've been fired after this game.
Hillis had a fine game and the run defense looked improved except for letting a giraffe bust off a 32 yard run. Draft slot still intact.
Between Shurmur's throwing (Wallace interception) on 3rd & 1, his Keytone Cops' playcalling at the end of the half and calling a screen to Hillis on 4th & 5 he should've been fired after this game.
Hillis had a fine game and the run defense looked improved except for letting a giraffe bust off a 32 yard run. Draft slot still intact.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2011 8:56pm
SportsAndLady;1026360 wrote:Lol seriously
"Yes we beat the ravens to improve to 5-10 but the real accomplishment was knocking the ravens whom we hate out for the Steelers whom we hate"
And then beat Pittsburgh to take it from them. Sorry, just a pride thing I guess. Drafting 3 or 4 spots higher doesn't guarantee anything IMO....especially if you don't trust anyone in charge.
Regardless, I'll leave this thread and not bother anymore.
Merry Christmas