and of course this is hypothetical, but say the NCAA gives out the penalties most expect(some probation and maybe some scholarship reductions) and OSU ends up winning a NC in the next few years. Do you think the NCAA will start giving out much harsher penalties to these schools that they find are not on the up and up? It would have to be a kick in the nuts to the NCAA for OSU to come back stronger than it previously was, due to indiscretions in the program.

First of all, the infractions are minor by comparison to a lot of the shit that is going down recently, (still have yet to see mention of South Carolina's little digression from media outlets). Secondly, Ohio State has a history of self reporting and full cooperation, so the penalties they levy will be scrutinized. Ohio State won't be getting the hammer much to the chagrin of their detractors.

We can sit here and speculate all damn night about what the NCAA will likely do in the future, when you look to their past though, the one thing that is clear is that you can't predict with any certainty what the hell they're thinking or doing. So I guess the short answer is no.

The South Carolina news is 3 months old and its not nearly the scale of corruption that OSU had. LMAO @ buckeyes who are crying about other schools and still whining about players selling "their own stuff" but ignore the fact that players knew the rules about not selling that stuff until after graduation. Not to mention the tats, cars, drugs, etc. at OSU.

Speedofsand;1016617 wrote:The South Carolina news is 3 months old and its not nearly the scale of corruption that OSU had. LMAO @ buckeyes who are crying about other schools and still whining about players selling "their own stuff" but ignore the fact that players knew the rules about not selling that stuff until after graduation. Not to mention the tats, cars, drugs, etc. at OSU.

Drugs huh? Cars huh?


GFY

Good insight.

So I guess your answer is "I dunno."

I hope Osu gets the hammer, that said, its really funny to see SEC fans stick up for other programs in the SEC. If the NCAA wants to be taken seriously they need to start hammering everyone. Miami, Osu, south Carolina, unc, Penn st, and anyone else who gets caught. Make the penalties harsh enough that it actually sets the programs back. Bama learned nothing from their penalties a few years ago because they won a national title just a couple years later.

^ LOL @ Cinci fans.

OSU got charged with "Failure to monitor"

No other school in history who has been charged with "Failure to monitor" received a bowl ban.

People WANT the NCAA to throw the books at OSU, even thought the crime doesn't fit that extreme of a punishment.

hoops23;1016754 wrote:OSU got charged with "Failure to monitor"

No other school in history who has been charged with "Failure to monitor" received a bowl ban.

People WANT the NCAA to throw the books at OSU, even thought the crime doesn't fit that extreme of a punishment.

USC?

goosebumps;1016765 wrote:USC?

Never self reported anything like Ohio State. That is why Ohio State will get off relatively easily, because if they don't, no school will ever self report again.

sleeper;1016749 wrote:^ LOL @ Cinci fans.

Cincinnati got hammered hard back in the 70s, and deservedly so. We were doing some pretty shady stuff.

sleeper;1016768 wrote:Never self reported anything like Ohio State. That is why Ohio State will get off relatively easily, because if they don't, no school will ever self report again.

No they did not self report, but he said no one ever got a bowl ban over failure to monitor. USC got a bowl ban.

goosebumps;1016770 wrote:No they did not self report, but he said no one ever got a bowl ban over failure to monitor. USC got a bowl ban.

OSU definitely did self report. And USC also had a LOIC tag attached.

goosebumps;1016769 wrote:Cincinnati got hammered hard back in the 70s, and deservedly so. We were doing some pretty shady stuff.

No one cares about Cinci.

LJ;1016627 wrote:Drugs huh? Cars huh?


GFY

Yes drugs and cars. You know its true. Just because the NCAA didn't convict every single violation doesn't mean it never happened.

Go self report yourself, lol. That one still cracks me up at buckeye fans saying they 'self reported'. That shit went on for several years. They are so honorable Tressel is gone. Whats worse is Doug Archie and Gene Smith are still there.

LJ;1016627 wrote:GO FUCK YOURSELF

FIFY

Speedofsand;1016785 wrote:Yes drugs and cars. You know its true. Just because the NCAA didn't convict every single violation doesn't mean it never happened.

Your proof it happened? Oh I guess you know better than the NCAA and the DEA :rolleyes:

If the NCAA wants to be taken seriously they need to start hammering everyone.

The NCAA needs to sit down, and go over it's 400 page rule book, throw half the picayune sh1t out, and condense it into something that it is easy for coaches, players and administration to enforce, understand and comply with. Then it needs to develop a uniform system of punishment when violations do occur, that is fair to players, schools and the people that have to baby sit 1000 or more teenage athletes at their institutions.

The 'violations' at Ohio State involved less that $9000, yet the investigations cost is well over a Million dollars and counting. These pocket change 'violations' have cost players valuable playing time (Posey in particular),... a good coach who is/was a great mentor to young men, his position and reputation, ...occupied university officials with handling this crap when they should be doing something more important...unfairly punished the other 'clean' players (present and future). And almost worst of all ...is still not resolved!

Yes drugs and cars. You know its true. Just because the NCAA didn't convict every single violation doesn't mean it never happened.

Such a wild unsubstantiatied claim could be made for any college.
OSU players have not tested positive for any drugs, and as for the cars...after an investigation, no violations of any of the bloated NCAA rules were found.
I suspect that YOU sir, are a troll who desrves no further response.

http://www.10tv.com/content/sections/video/index.html?video=/videos/2011/05/31/pryors-cars.xml


The largest transaction involved a player who traded two 2010 Rose Bowl watches and four seats at the Rose Bowl for a 2003 Chevrolet Tahoe.

The Dispatch reported that at least 50 Ohio State athletes or their family members bought used cars from the same salesman at two local auto dealers. The university launched an investigation into the vehicle transactions, focusing on whether the athletes received improper benefits. The report raised further questions about the culture surrounding the football program.
And while a bumbling compliance staff is always an easy scapegoat, the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, quoted former Buckeye Thaddeus Gibson (2007-09), who claimed players were repeatedly told not to sell items.
“Oh yeah, they [OSU athletic director Gene Smith and the coaches] talked about it a lot,” Gibson told the paper.

Dennis Talbott became the center of attention in the scandal for a few days in early June after ESPN -- citing an anonymous source -- reported that Talbott gave Pryor between $20,000 and $40,000 for memorabilia, in violation of NCAA rules.


Halko and both of his associates told the magazine that Dudley'z became a frequent hangout for Ohio State players. They said a dozen or more players could be found in the large, back room of the parlor on any given Friday or Saturday night and that drugs were provided by people at the shop.

Weed should be legal anyway.

Speedofsand;1016972 wrote:http://www.10tv.com/content/sections/video/index.html?video=/videos/2011/05/31/pryors-cars.xml


The largest transaction involved a player who traded two 2010 Rose Bowl watches and four seats at the Rose Bowl for a 2003 Chevrolet Tahoe.

The Dispatch reported that at least 50 Ohio State athletes or their family members bought used cars from the same salesman at two local auto dealers. The university launched an investigation into the vehicle transactions, focusing on whether the athletes received improper benefits. The report raised further questions about the culture surrounding the football program.
And while a bumbling compliance staff is always an easy scapegoat, the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, quoted former Buckeye Thaddeus Gibson (2007-09), who claimed players were repeatedly told not to sell items.
“Oh yeah, they [OSU athletic director Gene Smith and the coaches] talked about it a lot,” Gibson told the paper.

Dennis Talbott became the center of attention in the scandal for a few days in early June after ESPN -- citing an anonymous source -- reported that Talbott gave Pryor between $20,000 and $40,000 for memorabilia, in violation of NCAA rules.


Halko and both of his associates told the magazine that Dudley'z became a frequent hangout for Ohio State players. They said a dozen or more players could be found in the large, back room of the parlor on any given Friday or Saturday night and that drugs were provided by people at the shop.

Weed should be legal anyway.

Ah, hearsay, got it.

LOL video of Pryor is hearsay? You are such a moron.

Speedofsand;1017023 wrote:LOL video of Pryor is hearsay? You are such a moron.

You mean his loaners when he kept blowing up the engine in his car?

Hearsay isn't proof. Allegations written by hacks are not proof.

You're flailing. Perhaps you should rename yourself Speed of Quick Sand.

Writerbuckeye;1017109 wrote:Allegations written by hacks are not proof.

Given the shit you say on the politics forum, it's obvious you view quite a lot of hack journalism as the gospel

Writerbuckeye;1017109 wrote:Hearsay isn't proof. Allegations written by hacks are not proof.

You're flailing. Perhaps you should rename yourself Speed of Quick Sand.

10tv video is hearsay and the Dispatch is hackwriters. Sure. LMAO.