lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 24, 2012 6:00pm
It kinda seemed like he was though, before he teamed up in '08 with Wade and figured out a way for them to play together. Until that point, Cavs fans (myself included) were very defensive of his ability to close out games (he led the NBA in 4th quarter scoring almost every year).SportsAndLady;1064444 wrote:
Lebron isn't Lebron when ****s on the line.
Then all of a sudden he loses it. Very strange to me.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 24, 2012 6:06pm
How many titles does Lebron have? Nothing he has done makes me believe he would win a title if he were to come back.
In Cleveland, the team was built around him (bunch of spot of shooters for the most part) while he was the main handler of the ball.
In Miami, he is playing along with superstars and still hasn't won anything.
I could end up eating my words..but can you really say Lebron coming here probably after the peak of his career is going to give this team the best chance to win a championship?
In Cleveland, the team was built around him (bunch of spot of shooters for the most part) while he was the main handler of the ball.
In Miami, he is playing along with superstars and still hasn't won anything.
I could end up eating my words..but can you really say Lebron coming here probably after the peak of his career is going to give this team the best chance to win a championship?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 24, 2012 6:14pm
Pick, I'm not sure if he would. With a core of TT, Kyrie, and hopefully a lottery pick this year, there's nothing to say that Lebron would give us the best chance of winning. IF, and only if, I knew we'd win a championship with him (obviously impossible to predict but for argument's sake imagine it's feasible) then I would want him back. Otherwise, no.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 24, 2012 6:18pm
I'd agree with that.lhslep134;1064466 wrote:Pick, I'm not sure if he would. With a core of TT, Kyrie, and hopefully a lottery pick this year, there's nothing to say that Lebron would give us the best chance of winning. IF, and only if, I knew we'd win a championship with him (obviously impossible to predict but for argument's sake imagine it's feasible) then I would want him back. Otherwise, no.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 24, 2012 6:28pm
TT out for tonight's game.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 24, 2012 6:56pm
I would rather have losing seasons than have lebron back in cleveland on the cavs.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 24, 2012 6:57pm
I think the only way LeBron would even consider coming back is
a) the Heat failed to win a title, in which case I wouldn't want him back. He couldn't win with 60+ win teams and home-court advantage here, he couldn't win teaming up with Wade and Bosh in Miami, why bring him back?
b) He nears the end of his career and wants to "come home", but obviously that would be years after his potential 2014 opt out or whatever the year is, at which point he isn't going to be able to carry a team to a championship.
Don't think he's going to win a championship in Miami and then opt-out.
And I wouldn't want him back even if he did.
a) the Heat failed to win a title, in which case I wouldn't want him back. He couldn't win with 60+ win teams and home-court advantage here, he couldn't win teaming up with Wade and Bosh in Miami, why bring him back?
b) He nears the end of his career and wants to "come home", but obviously that would be years after his potential 2014 opt out or whatever the year is, at which point he isn't going to be able to carry a team to a championship.
Don't think he's going to win a championship in Miami and then opt-out.
And I wouldn't want him back even if he did.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 24, 2012 7:07pm
As I've said before, LeBron has torched his bridge with Cleveland and pissed on the ashes. Why would Dan Gilbert of all people want him back anyways?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 24, 2012 7:39pm
I understand points from both sides.
However, I'd take Satan himself on the Cavs (or any Cleveland team) if it meant a title...
However, I'd take Satan himself on the Cavs (or any Cleveland team) if it meant a title...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 24, 2012 7:56pm
Great move by Gee! Why is T2 out tonight?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 24, 2012 7:58pm
Injured ankleCommander of Awesome;1064576 wrote:Great move by Gee! Why is T2 out tonight?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 24, 2012 8:09pm
Holy fuck is the FAILami Heat's announcer annoying as fuck when Chris Posh hits a FG or what?
Also Norris was a Bulls fan? WTF is that shit.
Also Norris was a Bulls fan? WTF is that shit.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 24, 2012 8:10pm
Hell f*cking yeah. We've been through too much heartbreak for me to care enough about one of the most selfish and douchiest people I've ever seen coming back if it means a championship.hoops23;1064561 wrote:I understand points from both sides.
However, I'd take Satan himself on the Cavs (or any Cleveland team) if it meant a title...
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 24, 2012 10:16pm
He's from Dayton. Not Cleveland.Commander of Awesome;1064595 wrote:Holy fuck is the FAILami Heat's announcer annoying as fuck when Chris Posh hits a FG or what?
Also Norris was a Bulls fan? WTF is that shit.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 24, 2012 10:19pm
Its still Ohio. I wouldnt expect you to understand Wildcats.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jan 24, 2012 10:21pm
I'm from Columbus. My parents are from Chicago. Not all of Ohio roots for the Cavs...
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 24, 2012 10:50pm
What you doin in cincy?chicago510;1064602 wrote:I'm from Columbus. My parents are from Chicago. Not all of Ohio roots for the Cavs...
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 24, 2012 10:52pm
Irving needs more minutes.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 25, 2012 12:22am
This is true. I believe the term is "front runner".chicago510;1064602 wrote:Not all of Ohio roots for the Cavs...
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 25, 2012 1:02am
Miami's bigs leave a lot to be desired. Bosh is a 3 and a half...doesn't count.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 25, 2012 1:37am
He counted for 35 tonight. They suck in the post, but Bosh takes more heat (pun!) than he deserves.Footwedge;1064757 wrote:Miami's bigs leave a lot to be desired. Bosh is a 3 and a half...doesn't count.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 25, 2012 1:42am
Bosh was the reason the Heat won this game.
I love this Cavs team. Not much talent outside of Kyrie and T2 (who was out tonight) but they still compete in just about every game..
I hate to see them lose, but I love it at the same time. I know we need at least 1 more legit lottery pick to get this thing truly heading in the right direction.
I love this Cavs team. Not much talent outside of Kyrie and T2 (who was out tonight) but they still compete in just about every game..
I hate to see them lose, but I love it at the same time. I know we need at least 1 more legit lottery pick to get this thing truly heading in the right direction.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 25, 2012 1:48am
I'd like to see Skyenga get some run. It's time to start cutting AP's minutes down to around 0 per game.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 25, 2012 8:00am
Skyenga got recalled from the D League, might see him burn some minutes soon.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jan 25, 2012 8:41am
If the Cavs were getting even average production from their SG/SF positions, we would probably be looking at a playoff team. Fortunately, IMO since we need another high draft pick, we are getting 29.1 points per night from the Parker, Casspi, G and Gibson quartet. G and Gibson are OK coming off the bench, but the starting duo has to be the worst in the NBA. The fact that they are winning some games and playing competitively gives some optimism that maybe the rebuild will not take as long as many predicted it would before the start of this year.