Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread

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Jan 1, 2012 9:04pm
Skyhook79;1034227 wrote:Anyone complaining about Jamison tonight?
Yes. He sucks and has no business eating up 30+ minutes a night on a team in full rebuild mode.
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Jan 1, 2012 9:05pm
Skyhook79;1034227 wrote:Anyone complaining about Jamison tonight?
would rather see his minutes go to thompson, but other than that, no more than usual. it sucks that he is still on the team
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Jan 1, 2012 9:06pm
Skyhook79;1034227 wrote:Anyone complaining about Jamison tonight?
Jamison will have many more bad games than good this year. But he did play very well tonight.
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Jan 1, 2012 10:19pm
Jamison needs to play well....so someone will take him at the deadline.
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Jan 1, 2012 10:59pm
Tristan Thompson really changed the tide of the game. It was close then he had a dominating stretch with blocks and a couple of baskets that took the wheels off of NJ.

Alonzo Gee is really starting to turn into a solid bench guy as well.
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Jan 2, 2012 12:06am
This team is kinda like the reds a few years back. They won't win a ton of games and frustrate the shit out of you, but still will be a lot of fun to watch. I really enjoyed the game today. So much that I think I'm gonna go ahead and order the NBA package.
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Jan 2, 2012 12:08am
We need to start losing. I'm getting stressed by these wins.
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Jan 2, 2012 12:14am
I want them to lose in order to secure another top lottery pick... However, while I'm watching the game, I find myself rooting for the win...

LOL
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Jan 2, 2012 12:50am
Also, I think Byron Scott is doing an amazing job with the development of this team.
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Jan 2, 2012 1:19am
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Jan 2, 2012 8:40am
hoops23;1034552 wrote:I want them to lose in order to secure another top lottery pick... However, while I'm watching the game, I find myself rooting for the win...

LOL
I'm the same way, I know that losing is the best thing for this team but I can't watch the Cavs and root for them to lose
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Jan 2, 2012 8:58am
Midstate01;1034545 wrote:This team is kinda like the reds a few years back. They won't win a ton of games and frustrate the shit out of you, but still will be a lot of fun to watch. I really enjoyed the game today. So much that I think I'm gonna go ahead and order the NBA package.
shhh dont tell Jordo that. Only teams full of super stars can be fun to watch!
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Jan 2, 2012 9:38am
Pick6;1034633 wrote:shhh dont tell Jordo that. Only teams full of super stars can be fun to watch!
That's pretty much true on a national level. But the Cavs are far more enjoyable to watch compared to last season for a couple reasons. First, Lebron has been gone for a year now and the poor play wasn't as expected last year. Second, because they have Irving. Irving is going to be a really good player, and Thompson has shown a lot of potential. It's so much more fun watching young unproven talent than aging veterans.
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Jan 2, 2012 9:57am
hoops23;1034575 wrote:[video=youtube;43SrYmqE9K8][/video]
Pretty cool. I'm def growing on him.
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Jan 2, 2012 11:58am
I think me and hoops were the only ones who liked the Thompson pick. People are starting to come around
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Jan 2, 2012 1:41pm
Crimson streak;1034780 wrote:I think me and hoops were the only ones who liked the Thompson pick. People are starting to come around
I was strongly against it, and still think they could have made a better selection. But I thought Thompson would look overwhelmed this year, and he doesn't. He's not great by any standards, but he plays with energy and has potential.
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Jan 2, 2012 1:43pm
thedynasty1998;1034993 wrote:I was strongly against it, and still think they could have made a better selection. But I thought Thompson would look overwhelmed this year, and he doesn't. He's not great by any standards, but he plays with energy and has potential.
Who would have been a better pick? Thompson has crazy potential and has already shown a ridiculous amount of defensive star power.

He's also shown the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish with either hand, not to mention his offensive rebounding.

His only weakness right now is his FT shooting, but that can be fixed.
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Jan 2, 2012 1:49pm
hoops23;1035001 wrote:Who would have been a better pick? Thompson has crazy potential and has already shown a ridiculous amount of defensive star power.

He's also shown the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish with either hand, not to mention his offensive rebounding.

His only weakness right now is his FT shooting, but that can be fixed.

Agreed we didn't need someone to come in and average 20 and 10 right away. We have time to be patient and let them grow. Thompson has a 17& 10 guy written all over him and pair that with Irving and a top 3-5 pick this year the cabs could be deadly in a couple years
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Jan 2, 2012 1:54pm
Crimson streak;1034780 wrote:I think me and hoops were the only ones who liked the Thompson pick. People are starting to come around
Yeah I really didn't like the pick. Glad to say it looks like I'll be wrong.
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Jan 2, 2012 1:54pm
hoops23;1035001 wrote:Who would have been a better pick? Thompson has crazy potential and has already shown a ridiculous amount of defensive star power.

He's also shown the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish with either hand, not to mention his offensive rebounding.

His only weakness right now is his FT shooting, but that can be fixed.
Its Crynasty, he's an idiot. Not even worth your time responding to his trolling.
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Jan 2, 2012 2:01pm
hoops23;1035001 wrote:Who would have been a better pick? Thompson has crazy potential and has already shown a ridiculous amount of defensive star power.

He's also shown the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish with either hand, not to mention his offensive rebounding.

His only weakness right now is his FT shooting, but that can be fixed.
I haven't seen many of the rookies play, so I'm not sure. It was a weak draft, so maybe Thompson was the best available.

And how can you possibly say his only weakness is FT shooting. I don't think there is a single player in the NBA with a single weakness. He has plenty of areas to improve, but he possesses the traits you can't coach (energy, athleticism, timing and awareness) so there is reason to be very optimistic.
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Jan 2, 2012 2:39pm
thecrynasty1998;1035093 wrote:I haven't seen many of the rookies play, so I'm not sure. It was a weak draft, so maybe Thompson was the best available.

And how can you possibly say his only weakness is FT shooting. I don't think there is a single player in the NBA with a single weakness. He has plenty of areas to improve, but he possesses the traits you can't coach (energy, athleticism, timing and awareness) so there is reason to be very optimistic.
Even the best player in the league can improve in their best area. Stop being an argumentative pussy.
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Jan 2, 2012 5:31pm
thedynasty1998;1035093 wrote:I haven't seen many of the rookies play, so I'm not sure. It was a weak draft, so maybe Thompson was the best available.

And how can you possibly say his only weakness is FT shooting. I don't think there is a single player in the NBA with a single weakness. He has plenty of areas to improve, but he possesses the traits you can't coach (energy, athleticism, timing and awareness) so there is reason to be very optimistic.
You're an idiot.

When I say his only weakness is FT shooting that's what I meant. It doesn't mean he can't improve in other areas. His offensive game is very raw, but it's NOT a weakness. He's displayed the ability to put the ball on the floor and finish with both hands. When he's on the floor, his man has to pay attention to him.

Defensively he's been great. Blocking shots, boxing out, playing tough defense, etc...

Again, his achilles heel has been FT shooting. Outside of that, the rest of his game grades well. He's been impressing A LOT of people with his play, including scouts from other teams.

Nice try at trying to spin what I said though.
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Jan 2, 2012 5:50pm
Crimson streak;1034780 wrote:I think me and hoops were the only ones who liked the Thompson pick. People are starting to come around
I liked it, or at least didn't have a problem with it; I just didn't really voice my opinion. I just wanted to make damn sure we didn't draft a European unless it was Kanter.
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Jan 2, 2012 6:08pm
ESPN.com's David Thorpe's analysis about Kyrie and TT after their game against Detroit:

Tristan:
Dec. 29: After watching TT's first game, my initial thought was: "He has no idea what he's doing, but he's terrific." That is the sign of true talent. Thompson constantly ran to the front of the rim in his debut. He played to his size, length and explosiveness, rather than shrinking from it, and used his athletic gifts to earn free throw opportunities.
Kyrie:
Dec. 29: Matched up against Brandon Knight in the Cavs' second game, Irving may have lost the individual stats battle, but his team won and, more importantly, he showed off even more potential than Knight did. Irving gave us glimpses of D-Wade?s backboard jumper from the left angle, John Wall?s racing to the rim, Rajon Rondo's deceleration move in transition, Steve Nash?s one-legged floater and Russell Westbrook's interest in chasing down a rebound out of area.
Love what he says about Kyrie.