Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread

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Dec 30, 2011 11:19am
Looking forward to the game tonight, I'm curious to see how the Cavs look on the road against a good team. Hopefully Scott learned his lesson and keeps Samardo in the rotation and Hollins on the bench
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Dec 30, 2011 12:33pm
Pick6;1031220 wrote:Does TT sort of remind anybody of Blake Griffin?
Griffin, as a rookie, was much more polished offensively than TT.
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Dec 30, 2011 12:39pm
Would you guys rather have the Cavs competing for the 8th playoff spot this season, or tank and finish with a top 5 lottery pick in this year's loaded draft? I just can't decide. I normally am one of the fans that want to win now, but I also know that if we could get a player with the caliber of Harrison Barnes, along with Kyrie and TT, we could be set for years to come.
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Dec 30, 2011 12:43pm
Mr. Russell;1031378 wrote:Would you guys rather have the Cavs competing for the 8th playoff spot this season, or tank and finish with a top 5 lottery pick in this year's loaded draft? I just can't decide. I normally am one of the fans that want to win now, but I also know that if we could get a player with the caliber of Harrison Barnes, along with Kyrie and TT, we could be set for years to come.
I want to lose. However, next season I would be happy with making the playoffs.

I'm actually a huge Kings fan right now, really hoping they get the 8 seed in the playoffs.
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Dec 30, 2011 12:54pm
Pick6;1031220 wrote:Does TT sort of remind anybody of Blake Griffin?
Not at all.
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Dec 30, 2011 1:03pm
Mr. Russell;1031378 wrote:Would you guys rather have the Cavs competing for the 8th playoff spot this season, or tank and finish with a top 5 lottery pick in this year's loaded draft? I just can't decide. I normally am one of the fans that want to win now, but I also know that if we could get a player with the caliber of Harrison Barnes, along with Kyrie and TT, we could be set for years to come.
Seriously how could you tell? If they only win 20 games does that mean they tanked or they are just not that good? I really do not understand the theory of tanking when the season has just started.
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Dec 30, 2011 1:07pm
sleeper;1031384 wrote:I want to lose. However, next season I would be happy with making the playoffs.

I'm actually a huge Kings fan right now, really hoping they get the 8 seed in the playoffs.

Agree. They still need at least one more draft with a top 5 pick. If the Kings don't make the playoffs( and they won't) I would still expect to see the Cavs make a move to get another 1st round pick next year. Kyrie, TT and another top pick would be a great start to the rebuild
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Dec 30, 2011 1:32pm
Skyhook79;1031410 wrote:Seriously how could you tell? If they only win 20 games does that mean they tanked or they are just not that good? I really do not understand the theory of tanking when the season has just started.
Tanking is what happened when they got Bron. Now they just are bad.
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Dec 30, 2011 5:24pm
KR1245;1031413 wrote:Agree. They still need at least one more draft with a top 5 pick. If the Kings don't make the playoffs( and they won't) I would still expect to see the Cavs make a move to get another 1st round pick next year. Kyrie, TT and another top pick would be a great start to the rebuild
I think we'll trade Varejao to a contender for their 1st rounder. Varejao is the only player of value that I'd be willing to give up.
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dave
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Dec 30, 2011 5:31pm
The 2002 Cavs were horrible, a lot less talent than this team hopefully has. There were so many draft busts on that roster.

I don't see Andy getting moved unless they get a real good offer. He's locked up relatively cheap and it will be very hard to find someone to replace him.

Jamison might be able to bring in a 2nd rounder at the deadline.
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Dec 30, 2011 5:35pm
Pick6;1031220 wrote:Does TT sort of remind anybody of Blake Griffin?

Um. No.
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Dec 30, 2011 7:19pm
Kyrie getting to the rim so far
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Dec 30, 2011 7:59pm
Higher total this season - Cavs victories or Jamison assists?
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Dec 30, 2011 8:13pm
Not a bad half, Cavs really get after it on defense.
Kyrie looking good so far
TT with a couple more blocks
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dave
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Dec 30, 2011 8:22pm
Mulva;1031759 wrote:Higher total this season - Cavs victories or Jamison assists?
I'd be satisfied if he just passed up 1 shot a game. Can't believe management is letting him get so many minutes when they have all these young bigs on the bench.
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Dec 30, 2011 8:49pm
jordo212000;1031670 wrote:Um. No.
since you have a "casual" nba fandom...and only watch teams that play "good" basketball...which is according to you, only good teams. How can you comment on a player you supposedly havent seen play?
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Dec 30, 2011 8:53pm
I realllllly dislike Jamison. I don't give a shit what we get just get rid of him.
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Dec 30, 2011 8:58pm
Pick6;1031798 wrote:since you have a "casual" nba fandom...and only watch teams that play "good" basketball...which is according to you, only good teams. How can you comment on a player you supposedly havent seen play?

What year do you think this is? Any game you want to watch is always readily available. I wanted to see two top 5 draft picks play, so I watched the Cavs.

What do you think a casual NBA fan is exactly? I watch whatever I find compelling
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Dec 30, 2011 9:00pm
Rotinaj;1031799 wrote:I realllllly dislike Jamison. I don't give a **** what we get just get rid of him.
No shit
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Dec 30, 2011 9:12pm
The Cleveland Cavaliers are not good at the game of basketball.
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Dec 30, 2011 9:33pm
Only down 1 w 42 secs left. A win here would be nice.
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Dec 30, 2011 9:38pm
That won't be the best 2nd half of Irving's career.

Also, I know it's only been 3 games, but Omri Casspi is not impressive at all.
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Dec 30, 2011 9:38pm
Wow...Irving misses a game winning layup. Goin to ot.
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Dec 30, 2011 9:38pm
Damn it Kyrie, going to OT tied at 84. He probably couldve been called for traveling to be honest though.
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dave
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Dec 30, 2011 9:43pm
Kyrie is definitely raw, but I can't wait to watch him progress this season. Andy has been getting the shaft from the refs all night like usual.