Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread

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Jun 28, 2012 10:41pm
Pick6;1214747 wrote:Hopefully somebody better than Casspi lol.

Really though, pretty sure we have some money, I'd like to see us spend some.

I think I read they have around 20 mill to spend which can really make this team competitive next year
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Jun 28, 2012 10:42pm
KR1245;1214749 wrote:Buy a 2nd rounder and gran Quincy Miller

I would love that actually
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Jun 28, 2012 10:42pm
Cavs looking to get another pick.
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Jun 28, 2012 10:43pm
Has there even been any euros picked? This has been the first time in a long time we have barely seen any
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Jun 28, 2012 10:43pm
Zeller might be better than what Dallas ended up taking. Good god.
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Jun 28, 2012 10:44pm
hoops23;1214752 wrote:Cavs looking to get another pick.
sign me up
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Jun 28, 2012 10:46pm
Who's left that the Cavs would be intersted in?

You would think it would have to be a sf
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Jun 28, 2012 10:52pm
I would love to see the proof that rob is claiming. Probably his little buddy crynasty or SQ claiming all star hofer for T^2.
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Jun 28, 2012 10:53pm
Lamb?
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Jun 28, 2012 10:59pm
hoops23;1214767 wrote:Lamb?

He would be solid behind kyrie
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Jun 28, 2012 11:03pm
hoops23;1214767 wrote:Lamb?
Is that a trade rumor? I like lamb a lot.
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Jun 28, 2012 11:06pm
Dion Waiters per 40 minutes averaged 21 PPG 4 REB 4 AST 3 STL 36.3 % 3PT
Brad Beal per 40 minutes averaged 17 PPG 7 REB 2 AST 33.9% 3PT
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Jun 28, 2012 11:06pm
Mulva;1214777 wrote:Is that a trade rumor? I like lamb a lot.
I saw a tweet about it. Doubt anything takes place tho.
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Jun 28, 2012 11:38pm
hangonsloopy;1214783 wrote:Dion Waiters per 40 minutes averaged 21 PPG 4 REB 4 AST 3 STL 36.3 % 3PT
Brad Beal per 40 minutes averaged 17 PPG 7 REB 2 AST 33.9% 3PT
Careful....people don't like stats around here. I really never could understand why Beal was considered such a sharp shooter. His numbers don't shout out K Durant to me.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:00am
I'm cool with this draft. Nothing sexy, got 2 solid starters. Can't complain.

Mulva you're sounding a little crazy here...you don't have to hate every little thing your teams do lol
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Jun 29, 2012 12:23am
SportsAndLady;1214813 wrote:Mulva you're sounding a little crazy here...you don't have to hate every little thing your teams do lol
I don't. I loved the Kyrie pick and thought he was a no-brainer #1 (unlike some who wanted Derrick Williams). I loved the Joe Haden pick. I loved most of the Browns late round picks this year. I loved the Danny Green pick a couple years back even though the Cavs ended up cutting him. Just to give a few examples.

But "my teams" have for the most part sucked for years. Hating everything they do would have been the correct choice a lot more often than loving everything they do.

Dion Waiters was one of my least favorite "top prospects" in the draft (along with Drummond, Henson, and Leonard). My least favorite of any top guard prospects outside of possibly Rivers, but that was because I didn't think Rivers fit with the Cavs at all, not based on talent.

Sorry, but I don't change my opinion just because they end up in Cleveland.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:27am
Mulva;1214830 wrote:I don't. I loved the Kyrie pick and thought he was a no-brainer #1 (unlike some who wanted Derrick Williams). I loved the Joe Haden pick. I loved most of the Browns late round picks this year. I loved the Danny Green pick a couple years back even though the Cavs ended up cutting him. Just to give a few examples.

But "my teams" have for the most part sucked for years. Hating everything they do would have been the correct choice a lot more often than loving everything they do.

Dion Waiters was one of my least favorite "top prospects" in the draft (along with Drummond, Henson, and Leonard). My least favorite of any top guard prospects outside of possibly Rivers, but that was because I didn't think Rivers fit with the Cavs at all, not based on talent.

Sorry, but I don't change my opinion just because they end up in Cleveland.
I didn't mean it literally. Lol.

Zeller and Waiters are good additions to the team...it's not like MKG was there at 4 and we passed. We played the hand we were dealt. You don't have to hit a home run every pick.

Your hatred for the TT pick is just....well, stupid.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:37am
SportsAndLady;1214831 wrote:Your hatred for the TT pick is just....well, stupid.
We'll see. I don't support taking a hustle/defense player #4 overall when the team needs literally everything except a starting PG, and your 2nd best player (after your new PG) is a hustle/defense player who also plays the 4.

Tristan is a legitimately awful offensive player. He was 194/442 shooting. He had 66 dunks. Even if he somehow missed 10% of his dunks, that still leaves him at 128/371 on non-dunks. 34.5%. Not to mention he has 0 passing ability and basically 0 ball-handling ability.

Offensive rebounds and help defense are worth the #4 pick? Until he proves he's more than that, I'm not the stupid one.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:44am
0 ball-handling ability? I saw him drive to the basket quite a few times and he displayed some nice moves in the post... He often times got rushed though, which again, is to be expected for a raw big man who didn't have the benefit of a full training camp or a full slate of practices before the season began.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:45am
And what exactly don't you like about Waiters? Did you like Beal? Who DID you like?
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Jun 29, 2012 12:49am
From John Hollinger..
This year, we have two names to add to that list: Dion Waiters and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Kidd-Gilchrist is probably the safest pick on the board -- a big wing who plays defense, has strong stats and comes with no character questions. From a risk-aversion perspective alone he should be a top-five pick; I have him third on my board after Robinson. (See below for how I would rank the prospects, regardless of their Draft Rater numbers.)

I have Waiters fourth for similar reasons. His size, 6-foot-4, is more of a concern, but whatever team made him a promise did a wise thing. Waiters projects as the best small wing since Dwyane Wade, and he'd be a steal if somebody got him in the Nos. 8-10 range currently being discussed.
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Jun 29, 2012 12:51am
According to Chris Grant, Cavs will be very active in FA...
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Jun 29, 2012 3:27am
hoops23;1214842 wrote:According to Chris Grant, Cavs will be very active in FA...

Mayo possibly?
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Jun 29, 2012 7:04am
Crimson streak;1214865 wrote:Mayo possibly?
I wouldnt have a problem with that. I'm not sure they target a sg in FA when they just drafted one
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Jun 29, 2012 7:11am
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

Cavs receiving lots of high praise for picks of Dion Waiters (4th) and Tyler Zeller (17) nationally - from opposing GMs, scouts & analysts."