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Jan 30, 2012 1:54 PM
Pick6;1070131 wrote:so you would trade one of the 2 decent NBA starters on our team for a low 1st round pick?
Yes.
Jan 30, 2012 1:54pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:01 PM
Pick6;1070128 wrote:I love floppers. Its part of the game. Now go away.
Not surprised you love it.


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Jan 30, 2012 2:01pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM
sleeper;1070143 wrote:Yes.
I would rather trade for an actual player. Somebody who has shown some potential and the Cavs could use. Not essentially a 2nd round pick we will probably never see, like the foreigner we drafted this year.
Jan 30, 2012 2:10pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:16 PM
Hb31187;1069842 wrote:@ this point in their careers id agree with this
Do you mean because of his injury history? Because they're basically the same age.

I think a healthy Kaman is definitely better than AV. The problem is he doesn't stay healthy.

Also, I really haven't noticed Varejao flop at all this season. I also don't think his defense has been anything special, but he's been a beast on the offensive glass and he has very good hands and footwork.
Jan 30, 2012 2:16pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM
Pick6;1070161 wrote:I would rather trade for an actual player. Somebody who has shown some potential and the Cavs could use. Not essentially a 2nd round pick we will probably never see, like the foreigner we drafted this year.
We need young talent. No team is going to give us young talent for AV. AV is not going to be useful in the window we are trying to hit with the young talent. Might as well try to get something out of him.
Jan 30, 2012 2:17pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM
Mulva;1070166 wrote:Do you mean because of his injury history? Because they're basically the same age.

I think a healthy Kaman is definitely better than AV. The problem is he doesn't stay healthy.

Also, I really haven't noticed Varejao flop at all this season. I also don't think his defense has been anything special, but he's been a beast on the offensive glass and he has very good hands and footwork.
moves great without the ball as well.
Jan 30, 2012 2:18pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:25 PM
Varejao must have a piss poor financial manager if he has to flop for food.
Jan 30, 2012 2:25pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:26 PM
Skyhook79;1069887 wrote:I also never said "basketball purists love his (Vlade's) game". I hate floppers whether they are on my favorite team or not.

So you hated Robert horry??
Jan 30, 2012 2:26pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:27 PM
BR1986FB;1070178 wrote:Varejao must have a piss poor financial manager if he has to flop for food.
I lol'd.
Jan 30, 2012 2:27pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM
Skyhook79;1069887 wrote:I also never said "basketball purists love his (Vlade's) game". I hate floppers whether they are on my favorite team or not.

So you hate Derek Fisher?

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Jan 30, 2012 2:29pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:33 PM
Is there anyone who doesn't hate Derek Fisher?
Jan 30, 2012 2:33pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM
Fuck Derek Fisher.

But about Kyrie, Cleveland has something special in him. If he doesnt hit the rookie wall he'll put up some impressive numbers
Jan 30, 2012 2:39pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM
Lakers interested in Sessions?
Jan 30, 2012 3:11pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM
Mulva;1070201 wrote:Is there anyone who doesn't hate Derek Fisher?
Derek Fisher is the dirtiest player in the NBA. Ever since the Luis Scola cheapshot, he'll forever be known as Kobe's dirty sidekick.
Jan 30, 2012 3:17pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:27 PM
Pick6;1070274 wrote:Lakers interested in Sessions?
http://networkedblogs.com/tlQ4h
Jan 30, 2012 3:27pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:29 PM
Trading him for a player exception? Not thanks.
Jan 30, 2012 3:29pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:35 PM
Commander of Awesome;1070317 wrote:Trading him for a player exception? Not thanks.
yea, we've already let one of them go to waste didnt we?
Jan 30, 2012 3:35pm
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Jan 30, 2012 4:14 PM
Give us there first and the trade exemption and I'm good with that.
Jan 30, 2012 4:14pm
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Jan 30, 2012 4:53 PM
Midstate01;1070181 wrote:So you hated Robert horry??
I hated when he flopped.
Jan 30, 2012 4:53pm
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Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM
Skyhook79;1070455 wrote:I hated when he flopped.

But you liked the call right???
Jan 30, 2012 4:55pm
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Jan 30, 2012 4:59 PM
Midstate01;1070457 wrote:But you liked the call right???
No ,flopping should be a 1 shot tech and then it will end.
Jan 30, 2012 4:59pm
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Jan 30, 2012 5:08 PM
Pick6;1070328 wrote:yea, we've already let one of them go to waste didnt we?
No, Cavs dd the right thing with it. There was nothing worth pursuing and they opted to take the cap relief instead. That's one reason out cap situation is great for next season.
Jan 30, 2012 5:08pm
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Jan 30, 2012 5:29 PM
I agree with whomever said that the LeBron years wouldn't have been the same without Andy. He's the kind of guy every team wants and everyone hates playing against. He might have won that Boston game with the hustle play at the end to get the ball back for us. It sounds cliche but most of what he does doesn't end up in the scorers column. And for idiots (skyhook) who think all he does is flop around they need to watch some recent Cavs games. Andy has developed into a more all-around player and the "flopping" has all but disappeared. At least not any more then any other player in the league when someone runs into them down low.
Jan 30, 2012 5:29pm
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Jan 30, 2012 5:37 PM
grodt;1070485 wrote:He might have won that Boston game with the hustle play at the end to get the ball back for us.
I think the announcers gave him way too much credit for that. All he did was fall on the ball. That was 90% Gee for having active hands and stripping it.
Jan 30, 2012 5:37pm
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Jan 30, 2012 5:43 PM
Skyhook79;1069821 wrote:Basketball purists love a player who flops a lot?
Apparently you didn't listen the first time...basketball purists love Andy's game. Basketball purists ain't too crazy about a guy who throws up 30 shots a game just to lead his team in points.
Jan 30, 2012 5:43pm