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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 4:31 AM
man i can't wait to watch this Daley/Hazellett fight, Daley reminds me of Tyson with his looks and attitude a bit
Jan 2, 2010 11:31pm
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Jan 3, 2010 4:32 AM
Daley by Brutal KO
Jan 2, 2010 11:32pm
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bigdaddy2003

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Jan 3, 2010 4:39 AM
Yeah, it was nice.
Jan 2, 2010 11:39pm
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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 4:41 AM
wow Daley is explosive. I'd love to see him fight his teammate Dan Hardy, although i have a feeling GSP will be working both of them over within the next couple years
Jan 2, 2010 11:41pm
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Jan 3, 2010 4:42 AM
Monster KO Daley has heavy heavy hands!!
Jan 2, 2010 11:42pm
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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 4:43 AM
or....how bout Daley vs. Loser of Fitch/Alves?
Jan 2, 2010 11:43pm
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Jan 3, 2010 4:43 AM
GSP is too dominant right now in WW. No one can really touch him, seems to be the case in LW(Penn), WW (GSP) and MW (Anderson). Those three are just dominating their divisions right now.
Jan 2, 2010 11:43pm
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speedrush1189

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Jan 3, 2010 5:22 AM
What the hell was that from Silva?
Jan 3, 2010 12:22am
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eersandbeers

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Jan 3, 2010 5:23 AM
Thiago is a douche. Wasted half the round dancing and trying to bait Rashad. Why would Rashad even try to get into a punching match when he was absolutely dominating the fight?
Jan 3, 2010 12:23am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:24 AM
Silva is an idiot.
Jan 3, 2010 12:24am
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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 5:29 AM
I can understand Silva's frustration. was that an amateur wrestling match or an MMA fight? The only thing Rashad did was take Thiago down. He couldn't keep him down long enough to even attempt a ground and pound punch, he threw feather punches on his way in for another takedown and thats it. He didn't want to fight. he just wanted to wrestle. He just absolutely played for the decision.

I'm not even sure Evans landed a strike besides one body shot.

Silva was doing all that dancing and preening mocking Rashad to prove a point, which he proved to me, that Rashad had no intent to try to hurt him, he just wanted to wrestle for a decision. He had his hands down by his side and put his face right in Rashad's wheelhouse and he still wouldn't exchange.
Jan 3, 2010 12:29am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:32 AM
Ehh... Stupid move by Silva but really Rashad basically was a blanket in this fight. Take downs followed up with nothing. 0 Sub attempts, Hardly any damage with strikes, I was not that impressed with Rashad really.

Thiago was equally unimpressive with those antics at the end. Neither of these guys can challenge Shogun/Machida
Jan 3, 2010 12:32am
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speedrush1189

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Jan 3, 2010 5:32 AM
Evans wants Rampage..... good luck with that.
Jan 3, 2010 12:32am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:32 AM
This_DJ_3 wrote: I can understand Silva's frustration. was that an amateur wrestling match or an MMA fight? The only thing Rashad did was take Thiago down. He couldn't keep him down long enough to even attempt a ground and pound punch, he threw feather punches on his way in for another takedown and thats it. He didn't want to fight. he just wanted to wrestle. He just absolutely played for the decision.

I'm not even sure Evans landed a strike besides one body shot.

Silva was doing all that dancing and preening mocking Rashad to prove a point, which he proved to me, that Rashad had no intent to try to hurt him, he just wanted to wrestle for a decision.
If Silva is frustrated by the takedowns maybe he should box. MMA includes taking your opponent down and Rashad had a perfect gameplan that allowed him to win.

Silva did the dancing in the third round after Rashad already had the fight won by a wide margin. Why would Rashad try to hurt him and risk being knocked out when he already had it won?
Jan 3, 2010 12:32am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM
Who cares if the fans were booing, Evans executed a good gameplan, shame on Thiago for not adapting. Hes a BJJ Blackbelt but couldnt do anything on the ground.

He missed a golden oppurtunity when Evans lost his cool and played into Thiagos mind game, almost got him knocked out but Silva was exhausted from getting dominated the other 12 minutes of the 15 minute fight.

However, Rashad vs Rampage will be hilarious, Evans wont be able to muscle Rampage and if he was scared to trade with Silva wtf is he gonna do with Jackson haha.

Cant wait.
Jan 3, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM
Machida won't be champion much longer anyways. Once the rubber match with Shogun comes up he will be ousted.
Jan 3, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM
eersandbeers wrote:
This_DJ_3 wrote: I can understand Silva's frustration. was that an amateur wrestling match or an MMA fight? The only thing Rashad did was take Thiago down. He couldn't keep him down long enough to even attempt a ground and pound punch, he threw feather punches on his way in for another takedown and thats it. He didn't want to fight. he just wanted to wrestle. He just absolutely played for the decision.

I'm not even sure Evans landed a strike besides one body shot.

Silva was doing all that dancing and preening mocking Rashad to prove a point, which he proved to me, that Rashad had no intent to try to hurt him, he just wanted to wrestle for a decision.
If Silva is frustrated by the takedowns maybe he should box. MMA includes taking your opponent down and Rashad had a perfect gameplan that allowed him to win.

Silva did the dancing in the third round after Rashad already had the fight won by a wide margin. Why would Rashad try to hurt him and risk being knocked out when he already had it won?
In my opinion a take down followed with nothing but lay and pray or where the other fighter gets up immediately is really no different to me than when someone just grabs a clinch and throws no strikes. In my opinion a take down is used to gain dominant position and capitalize, not just take opponent down and let them get right back up.
Jan 3, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM
Silva had Evans rocked in that 3rd and decided dancing and mocking Evans was a better strategy I guess?
Jan 3, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:35 AM
Ender Wiggin wrote: Who cares if the fans were booing, Evans executed a good gameplan, shame on Thiago for not adapting. Hes a BJJ Blackbelt but couldnt do anything on the ground.

He missed a golden oppurtunity when Evans lost his cool and played into Thiagos mind game, almost got him knocked out but Silva was exhausted from getting dominated the other 12 minutes of the 15 minute fight.

However, Rashad vs Rampage will be hilarious, Evans wont be able to muscle Rampage and if he was scared to trade with Silva wtf is he gonna do with Jackson haha.

Cant wait.
Agreed.
Jan 3, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:37 AM
If Rashad doesn't want to punch, maybe he should wrestle...it's a two way street. I'm not saying it wasn't effective, I'm saying that he didn't intend try to do much damage, just smother Silva with wrestling. He was playing for a decision. plain and simple. it worked. good for him, but as a fight fan i was frustrated by his strategy, and i think Silva was frustrated because he has the spirit of a fighter and wants to fight.
Jan 3, 2010 12:37am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:40 AM
This_DJ_3 wrote: If Rashad doesn't want to punch, maybe he should wrestle...it's a two way street. I'm not saying it wasn't effective, I'm saying that he didn't intend try to do much damage, just smother Silva with wrestling. He was playing for a decision. plain and simple. it worked. good for him, but as a fight fan i was frustrated by his strategy, and i think Silva was frustrated because he has the spirit of a fighter and wants to fight.
Wrestling is a very big part of MMA. Rashad was also punching when it was needed.

This fight exposed Thiago's takedown defense in a big way. Rashad had a great plan and stuck to it.

If Silva wanted to punch he should have pushed it to get into a punching match. He wouldn't. He just stood back and let Evans continually take him down.
Jan 3, 2010 12:40am
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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 5:42 AM
bigdaddy2003 wrote:
Ender Wiggin wrote: Who cares if the fans were booing, Evans executed a good gameplan, shame on Thiago for not adapting. Hes a BJJ Blackbelt but couldnt do anything on the ground.

He missed a golden oppurtunity when Evans lost his cool and played into Thiagos mind game, almost got him knocked out but Silva was exhausted from getting dominated the other 12 minutes of the 15 minute fight.

However, Rashad vs Rampage will be hilarious, Evans wont be able to muscle Rampage and if he was scared to trade with Silva wtf is he gonna do with Jackson haha.

Cant wait.
Agreed.
I agree with this also, but i will say that although takedowns do earn you points, i don't consider what he did dominating because he did absolutely zero damage with those takedowns and couldn't keep him on the ground for 20 seconds.

He couldn't hurt Silva on the ground, but he could get him there. He could have possibly hurt him in the standup because we know he has great boxing, but he was too scared to put his neck on the line to do any damage there.

I just didn't like the fight or his intent. He won the fight, i agree'd with that via MMA scoring standards, but he lost it with me and other fans i'm sure and he was hurt way more than he ever hurt Silva even if he took him down 15 times.
Jan 3, 2010 12:42am
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This_DJ_3

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Jan 3, 2010 5:45 AM
bigdaddy2003 wrote: Well GSP tends to smother people and everyone praises him.
B/c once GSP gets you down he constantly is passing guard and doing a ton of damage with some of the most active and devastating ground and pound in the MMA world. Look at the faces of the people he fights after their fights and then look at Silva's face.

Rashad didn't do anything with his takedowns. nothing. I'd like to rewatch the fight and see if he even attempted a punch on the ground.

Silva's mocking was saying you wanna dance around out here and look pretty and like you mean business, but you don't wanna stand here and swing with me. Was Rashad gunshy since the just got knocked the F out?

Once again, i'm not saying he didn't win this fight the way its meant to be scored, i'm not saying it wasn't a smart strategy. I just thought he had more balls and killer instinct. I'm disappointed as a fight fan. That's all.
Jan 3, 2010 12:45am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:46 AM
This_DJ_3 wrote:
bigdaddy2003 wrote:
Ender Wiggin wrote: Who cares if the fans were booing, Evans executed a good gameplan, shame on Thiago for not adapting. Hes a BJJ Blackbelt but couldnt do anything on the ground.

He missed a golden oppurtunity when Evans lost his cool and played into Thiagos mind game, almost got him knocked out but Silva was exhausted from getting dominated the other 12 minutes of the 15 minute fight.

However, Rashad vs Rampage will be hilarious, Evans wont be able to muscle Rampage and if he was scared to trade with Silva wtf is he gonna do with Jackson haha.

Cant wait.
Agreed.
I agree with this also, but i will say that although takedowns do earn you points, i don't consider what he did dominating because he did absolutely zero damage with those takedowns and couldn't keep him on the ground for 20 seconds.

He couldn't hurt Silva on the ground, but he could get him there. He could have possibly hurt him in the standup because we know he has great boxing, but he was too scared to put his neck on the line to do any damage there.

I just didn't like the fight or his intent. He won the fight, i agree'd with that via MMA scoring standards, but he lost it with me and other fans i'm sure and he was hurt way more than he ever hurt Silva even if he took him down 15 times.
I also agree with the result but have an issue with the way fights are judged and scored sometimes. In America fighters are awarded too much for take downs. In Pride rule,I bet Silva would have won this.
Jan 3, 2010 12:46am
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Jan 3, 2010 5:50 AM
I don't know. Evans could have done more but he executed a game plan and won the fight so I can't really fault him. Silva had a chance to win and he chose to act like an idiot. I'm glad I didn't buy the ppv though.
Jan 3, 2010 12:50am