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Apr 11, 2011 9:21 PM
I Wear Pants;738345 wrote:I think Overeem demolishes any UFC heavyweight to be honest. He's got the best striking (K1 Grandprix champ) and also has a good submission game. Plus he's huge.

I would favor Cain, Brock, JDS, and Carwin against him.
Apr 11, 2011 5:21pm
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Apr 11, 2011 11:27 PM
The_Crosby_Show;738447 wrote:I would favor Cain, Brock, JDS, and Carwin against him.

He would no doubt be game against anyone but I don't agree with whoever said he would demolish them. He's been knocked out by Chuck and Shogun who were both LHW's, although that was a long time ago.
Apr 11, 2011 7:27pm
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Apr 11, 2011 11:28 PM
robj55;738544 wrote:He would no doubt be game against anyone but I don't agree with whoever said he would demolish them. He's been knocked out by Chuck and Shogun who were both LHW's, although that was a long time ago.
Overeem is much, much larger now.

How would Carwin beat him if I may ask?
Apr 11, 2011 7:28pm
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Apr 11, 2011 11:36 PM
I Wear Pants;738546 wrote:Overeem is much, much larger now.

How would Carwin beat him if I may ask?
With a right hook
Apr 11, 2011 7:36pm
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Apr 12, 2011 12:18 AM
I like Overeem. He's more of a "real deal" than Fedor has been in the last 2+ years.

I don't see Carwin beating him. But I do think that it would make good fights if you throw JDS or Cain in with Overeem. I like Lesnar, but I do not think he stands a chance against Overeem.
Apr 11, 2011 8:18pm
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Apr 12, 2011 12:36 AM
I Wear Pants;738546 wrote:Overeem is much, much larger now.

How would Carwin beat him if I may ask?

Larger with the same chin, the guy is a monster and a great striker but he wouldn't demolish everyone. I'll watch him fight every time though no doubt lol
Apr 11, 2011 8:36pm
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Apr 12, 2011 12:37 AM
Hb31187;738554 wrote:With a right hook

Hell Carwin could probably knock someone out with a jab lol, that dude has scary power
Apr 11, 2011 8:37pm
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Apr 12, 2011 6:01 PM
When I read "How would Carwin beat him" the first thing I thought of was:

By punching him in the face

How else does Carwin beat people?
Apr 12, 2011 2:01pm
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Apr 12, 2011 6:52 PM
What I meant is that I believe Overeem to be a far superior striker and I've got a better ground game than Carwin so...
Apr 12, 2011 2:52pm
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Apr 12, 2011 7:04 PM
I Wear Pants;739382 wrote:What I meant is that I believe Overeem to be a far superior striker and I've got a better ground game than Carwin so...

He is definitely an elite level striker, you don't win the K1 tournament if you're not thats for sure.
Apr 12, 2011 3:04pm
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Apr 13, 2011 3:03 AM
overeem is overrated who has he beat in the last two years besides rodgers who is a ? himself
Apr 12, 2011 11:03pm
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Apr 13, 2011 3:40 AM
Just looked at Carwin's wikipedia, why are the fights so damned inaccurate. It has him as fighting Couture, Hendo, Jon Jones, and Rampage Jackson. None of which he actually fought according to their respective wikipedia pages.
Apr 12, 2011 11:40pm
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Apr 13, 2011 5:11 PM
I Wear Pants;739838 wrote:Just looked at Carwin's wikipedia, why are the fights so damned inaccurate. It has him as fighting Couture, Hendo, Jon Jones, and Rampage Jackson. None of which he actually fought according to their respective wikipedia pages.

Uhmm.... because it's Wikipedia?!
Apr 13, 2011 1:11pm
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Apr 13, 2011 10:17 PM
Well usually they're all over that sort of shit. Especially with higher profile pages like that.
Apr 13, 2011 6:17pm
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Apr 14, 2011 4:14 AM
This episode of TUF was a lot better, the last one the Mexican guy was just straight up terrible, wasn't even trying to land damaging punches at all. Though I thought Ryan in this fight should have let his hands fly a bit more, too many single jabs without a follow up combination IMO though it was a good fight.

I keep liking Dos Santos more and more.
Apr 14, 2011 12:14am
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Apr 14, 2011 9:18 PM
http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Nick-Diaz-contemplating-retirement-from-MMA,-looking-to-focus-on-boxing.html

Nick Diaz considering retiring from MMA to box? What are your thoughts on this? I would love to see an MMA guy cross over and do a boxing match since James Toney tried his hand at MMA, this would create a huge buzz from the MMA and boxing worlds alike. I can't see Nick not fighting MMA again as I see this as more of a way to generate more buzz about himself and get bigger paydays. Not sure how well he would do against a guy like Vargas.
Apr 14, 2011 5:18pm
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Apr 15, 2011 4:15 PM
Shogun vs. Griffin II to happen in Rio.
Apr 15, 2011 12:15pm
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Apr 15, 2011 6:52 PM
The_Crosby_Show;742014 wrote:Shogun vs. Griffin II to happen in Rio.

Royce Gracie is also reportedly on that card, as well as Anderson Silva vs. Okami II. Would be cool if they could find a way to get both Jose Aldo and Machida both on that card as well.
Apr 15, 2011 2:52pm
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Apr 15, 2011 6:57 PM
Big Nog wants to fight on the card.

No way in hell do I want to see Royce fight. He'll get his ass kicked again.
Apr 15, 2011 2:57pm
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Apr 15, 2011 7:16 PM
The_Crosby_Show;742231 wrote:Big Nog wants to fight on the card.

No way in hell do I want to see Royce fight. He'll get his ass kicked again.

I see this as more of a tribute to a legend more than anything, they will feed him a can who he can take down and choke out.
Apr 15, 2011 3:16pm
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Apr 18, 2011 6:53 PM
What type of card do you want to see in Brazil? If the fights have been made, I've listed them:

Anderson Silva vs. Yushin Okami II (would rather see Silva have a superfight here - GSP or Jon Jones; wish it could've been a rematch with Sonnen, or even a fight with a top of Light Heavyweight)
Jose Aldo vs. Chad Mendes
Shogun Rua vs. Forrest Griffin
Royce Gracie vs. Kazushi Sakuraba III
Wanderlei Silva vs. Vitor Belfort II

If some of these didn't work out, you could have Antonio Nogueira vs. Brendan Schaub, or Lyoto Machida vs. Phil Davis
Apr 18, 2011 2:53pm
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Apr 18, 2011 6:59 PM
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

UFC 129 - April 30th on PPV from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(c) Georges St-Pierre vs. Jake Shields for Welterweight Title
(c) Jose Aldo vs. Mark Hominick for Featherweight Title
Randy Couture vs. Lyoto Machida
Jason Brilz vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Ben Henderson vs. Mark Bocek

UFC 130 - May 28th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard III for Lightweight Title
Rampage Jackson vs. Matt Hamill
Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
Stefan Struve vs. Travis Brown
Brian Stann vs. Jorge Santiago
Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
Miguel Torres vs. Brad Pickett

The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale - June 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone
Jeremy Stephens vs. Jonathan Brookins

UFC 131 - June 11th on PPV from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Brock Lesnar vs. Junior dos Santos
Shane Carwin vs. Jon Olav Einemo
Demian Maia vs. Mark Munoz
Kenny Florian vs. Diego Nunes
Mac Danzig vs. Donald Cerrone

Strikeforce: Overeem vs. Werdum - June 18th on Showtime from Dallas, Texas
Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum II in Grand Prix quarterfinal
Josh Barnett vs. Brett Rogers in Grand Prix quarterfinal

UFC on Versus 4 - June 26th on Versus from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Nate Marquardt vs. Anthony Johnson
Pat Barry vs. Cheick Kongo
Tyson Griffin vs. Manny Gamburyan
Matt Mitrione vs. Christian Morecraft
Martin Kampmann vs. John Howard

UFC 132 - July 2nd on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Urijah Faber II for UFC Bantamweight Title
Tito Ortiz vs. Ryan Bader
Evan Dunham vs. George Sotiropoulos
Melvin Guillard vs. Shane Roller

UFC 133 - August 6th on PPV from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
TBA

UFC 134 - August 27th on PPV from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Yushin Okami II for Middleweight Title
Shogun Rua vs. Forrest Griffin II
Apr 18, 2011 2:59pm
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Apr 20, 2011 1:55 AM
"Captain America" Randy Couture to retire win, lose, or draw after Machida fight:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AmkB5aEcKL7SgqYEs1tWOXI5nYcB?slug=dm-meltzer_couture_retiring_after_ufc_129

Win, lose, or draw April 30th it will be sad to see him go. My fav fighter of all time, though I know its probably time for him to hang it up, he isn't your typical 48 year old that is for sure. Dude fought the best of the best almost every fight. 2 reigns as champ in 2 different classes in the UFC, 3x at hvy, 2x at 205. Will be missed in the cage!
Apr 19, 2011 9:55pm
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Apr 20, 2011 2:07 AM
Fab1b;745494 wrote:"Captain America" Randy Couture to retire win, lose, or draw after Machida fight:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AmkB5aEcKL7SgqYEs1tWOXI5nYcB?slug=dm-meltzer_couture_retiring_after_ufc_129

Win, lose, or draw April 30th it will be sad to see him go. My fav fighter of all time, though I know its probably time for him to hang it up, he isn't your typical 48 year old that is for sure. Dude fought the best of the best almost every fight. 2 reigns as champ in 2 different classes in the UFC, 3x at hvy, 2x at 205. Will be missed in the cage!

Much respect to Randy, a legend in every regard. He was always game in every fight and never ducked anyone no matter who or what weight. Hopefully the UFC can keep him around as an advisor or something.
Apr 19, 2011 10:07pm
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Apr 20, 2011 3:00 AM
Randy is and will always be the man. Gotta love the way he fights.
Apr 19, 2011 11:00pm