CCRolly
Posts: 786
Jan 25, 2012 11:32am
If no Stu Turner 2 years ago, Triway knocks the Riders out in Round 1.wc expert;1065071 wrote:not sure wooster kids helped Orrville all that much. i think instead of focusing on Orrville, Wooster should be worried about getting their own house in order. do have to laugh at orrville posters here tho, they are always behind their program, win or tie!
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scarface1
Posts: 128
Jan 25, 2012 12:21pm
so di mac before the 90s carousel began
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 12:32pm
"If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?"CCRolly;1065084 wrote:If no Stu Turner 2 years ago, Triway knocks the Riders out in Round 1.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Jan 25, 2012 12:40pm
And if he stays in Wooster, Orrville still wins 7 straight and add another two playoff appearances while Wooster goes 4-6 again.CCRolly;1065084 wrote:If no Stu Turner 2 years ago, Triway knocks the Riders out in Round 1.
Paul
Posts: 309
Jan 25, 2012 1:08pm
Oh well recon that's it, the end is near. But his wife is from Wooster!
CCRolly
Posts: 786
Jan 25, 2012 1:22pm
Ahhhh...the joys of being D4 and only having to win 5 games to get into the Playoffs.
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Jan 25, 2012 1:38pm
Ahh, the joys of playing a tough non-league schedule instead of the bottom half of the Akron City Series.CCRolly;1065223 wrote:Ahhhh...the joys of being D4 and only having to win 5 games to get into the Playoffs.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jan 25, 2012 1:47pm
CCRolly;1065223 wrote:Ahhhh...the joys of being D4 and only having to win 5 games to get into the Playoffs.
Ahhhh... the joys of inter-league rivalries.RedRider1;1065253 wrote:Ahh, the joys of playing a tough non-league schedule instead of the bottom half of the Akron City Series.
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Fencer18
Posts: 10
Jan 25, 2012 2:06pm
He wasn't the only candidate who interviewed for the job who is married to a WHS grad with local roots. Haas's inlaw's are Columbus transplants, but demographics should not play into job consideration for a program. Completely disappointed in the administration on how this whole process was handled. The other candidates never got a phone call until yesterday that there was not going to be second interviews. Wooster had this a done deal before they started. The quote from Keller in the DR made it sound like the other candidates were junior high league compared to Haas. Definitely not the case.wc expert;1065073 wrote:and i read where Dougs wife is from wooster, so he may not be going anywhere if his house is run like most.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Jan 25, 2012 2:12pm
Just start with beating those D4 teams and then you can talk!CCRolly;1065223 wrote:Ahhhh...the joys of being D4 and only having to win 5 games to get into the Playoffs.
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RedRiderTradition
Posts: 26
Jan 25, 2012 2:34pm
Doug's wife was a standout athlete in volleyball and basketball and also played softball and ran track in high school. She is also member of WHS Sports HOF. She played for current WHS principal, Anita Jorney-Gifford. Doug didn't beat Orrville when he was at Triway. The best indicator of future behavior is to exam past behavior. And might I add those weren't playoff quality Red Riders teams.
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 2:56pm
Imagine what Wooster's record would be year in and year out if they played a DI schedule! If you want to get in the playoffs, start scheduling up, oh, my bad, you first need to win games and it's clear that you can't even do that against DIV teams.CCRolly;1065223 wrote:Ahhhh...the joys of being D4 and only having to win 5 games to get into the Playoffs.
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M Plant
Posts: 33
Jan 25, 2012 3:26pm
well, they almost got in this year and that was at 4-5 entering the Orrville game - still don't know how that happened.Red Right 21;1065385 wrote:Imagine what Wooster's record would be year in and year out if they played a DI schedule! If you want to get in the playoffs, start scheduling up, oh, my bad, you first need to win games and it's clear that you can't even do that against DIV teams.
seems to me earlier in the 2000s, but after Wooster joined the OCC, 2 of its 3 ooc games were Perry and GlenOak.
Always a fine line between scheduling for CPU points or for wins
Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
Jan 25, 2012 3:51pm
The DR article said the Woo job is one of the most coveted jobs in the area......that made me lulz!!
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Jan 25, 2012 3:56pm
Wooster Non-Conf Since 2003
27 games.
16-11 record.
3-6 vs. teams with winning record
0-7 vs. playoff teams
5-0 vs. Akron City Series Teams
1-7 vs. Federal League Teams
Combined record of non-conf opponents since 2003......124-158 (44%)
Orrville Non-Conf since 2003
27 games.
15-12 record
7-13 vs. teams with winning record
6-10 vs. playoff teams
Combined record of non-conf opponents since 2003......189-108 (64%)
27 games.
16-11 record.
3-6 vs. teams with winning record
0-7 vs. playoff teams
5-0 vs. Akron City Series Teams
1-7 vs. Federal League Teams
Combined record of non-conf opponents since 2003......124-158 (44%)
Orrville Non-Conf since 2003
27 games.
15-12 record
7-13 vs. teams with winning record
6-10 vs. playoff teams
Combined record of non-conf opponents since 2003......189-108 (64%)
CCRolly
Posts: 786
Jan 25, 2012 4:33pm
We've beaten you before (with McCreary) over a period of years, and will be again real soon. I swear, it doesn't take much for some of you Orrville fans to fly off the handle. This is all tongue-in-cheek and the Orrville guys that know me on here would know that. And I'll take you guys on for who has the toughest non-league game scheduled next year too.
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 4:34pm
I do understand the fine line between schedule and wins. I think the issue here is that they needed a win against a DIV team and they couldn’t do it.M Plant;1065429 wrote:well, they almost got in this year and that was at 4-5 entering the Orrville game - still don't know how that happened.
seems to me earlier in the 2000s, but after Wooster joined the OCC, 2 of its 3 ooc games were Perry and GlenOak.
Always a fine line between scheduling for CPU points or for wins
I hope coach Haas gets a good staff and is supported by the community and get this thing turned around.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 25, 2012 4:36pm
People bitched about the old coach, and now they are bitching about the new coach ( who hasn't even started).
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Aaron Dorksen
Posts: 20
Jan 25, 2012 4:46pm
Have 2 really disagree, why don't you think it's one of the most coveted FB jobs in the area? Biggest school in area and more kids to pick from, likely bigger pay check when teaching or admin. position is factored in and chance to win against bigger schools w/ brighter spotlight. I didn't say it would be easy - it'll be tough - but that's laughable to think a lot of people wouldn't want this opportunity.
Mr. 300;1065465 wrote:The DR article said the Woo job is one of the most coveted jobs in the area......that made me lulz!!
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Aaron Dorksen
Posts: 20
Jan 25, 2012 4:52pm
Agreed Wooster will be withdrawing from the City Series to up its non-lg schedule :thumbup:, including Chagrin Falls starting next yr. They're also trying to add a better D-I or II, but you can't just jump in playing all D-I playoff teams in non-conf w/ where they're at. I like the pick for Haas and he has shown the ability to really turn around programs that were way under .500 right before he took over. Not sure he's ever really had great talent to work with, but Wooster could provide him with the best players he's had yet. Any of the five finalists would have been good, but I can see why they went with him. Obviously none of us were in interview room w/ the others, but i was surprised someone else didn't get another interview, especially Durbin or Seder.
CCRolly;1065516 wrote:We've beaten you before (with McCreary) over a period of years, and will be again real soon. I swear, it doesn't take much for some of you Orrville fans to fly off the handle. This is all tongue-in-cheek and the Orrville guys that know me on here would know that. And I'll take you guys on for who has the toughest non-league game scheduled next year too.
CCRolly
Posts: 786
Jan 25, 2012 5:32pm
The bottom line to this is...it doesn't matter who the coach is if the kids won't buy into their program or bust their butts to improve.
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 6:21pm
It sure does matter who the coach is! The "right" coach will get the kids excited about the program! That's the first thing he will be working on!CCRolly;1065590 wrote:The bottom line to this is...it doesn't matter who the coach is if the kids won't buy into their program or bust their butts to improve.
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 6:24pm
Medina,Wadsworth, Strongsville,Brunswick would be nice additions to choose from!Aaron Dorksen;1065538 wrote:Agreed Wooster will be withdrawing from the City Series to up its non-lg schedule :thumbup:, including Chagrin Falls starting next yr. They're also trying to add a better D-I or II, but you can't just jump in playing all D-I playoff teams in non-conf w/ where they're at. I like the pick for Haas and he has shown the ability to really turn around programs that were way under .500 right before he took over. Not sure he's ever really had great talent to work with, but Wooster could provide him with the best players he's had yet. Any of the five finalists would have been good, but I can see why they went with him. Obviously none of us were in interview room w/ the others, but i was surprised someone else didn't get another interview, especially Durbin or Seder.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jan 25, 2012 6:42pm
BRF is surprised that there wasn't a second round, also. Opinion: not good to do it that way.
Red Right 21
Posts: 88
Jan 25, 2012 7:00pm
In some cases it is clear that one candidate is better prepared and comes across much stronger than the others. If that was the case in Woo then why waste peoples time going through the second interview? Time will tell if they got it right or not!BRF;1065641 wrote:BRF is surprised that there wasn't a second round, also. Opinion: not good to do it that way.