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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 10, 2011 4:20pm
I started the thread and said done for the year. Yancey Gates has had multiple run- ins/conflicts and rule breaking incidents. Combined, they warrant being kicked off the team.Hb31187;1010255 wrote:Wasnt just refering to you, multiple people have said he needs to be gone a year, as well as a few talking heads on espn ect
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 10, 2011 4:20pm
You don't fuck with the Bearcats
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 10, 2011 4:20pm
september63;1010257 wrote:You cant compare different sports and throwing that type of punch.
Yes you can.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 10, 2011 4:21pm
I agree Suh received 2 games for trying to bury a players head in the turf and then stomping a cleat tattoo on his arm.Hb31187;1010260 wrote:Why not lol? Comparing it to baseball and football where theres no rule that goes hand and hand with fighting is a fair comparison. Why is it not?
It compares very favorably to a baseball brawl actually
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Dec 10, 2011 4:25pm
Gates should receive a suspension as should a number of other players on both teams. Today was a total disgrace for both clubs.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Dec 10, 2011 4:26pm
I think a year is too much. 10 games seems about right.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 10, 2011 4:29pm
lol--okjustincredible;1010265 wrote:Yes you can.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 10, 2011 4:29pm
The most comparable situation to Gates is probably LeGarrette Blount, and he was conditionally suspended for the year (and served 10/11 games before being reinstated).
And even that's not the same, because Blount allegedly knocked out an asshole who had just made a racist comment to him. Gates sucker punched a guy who wasn't even looking at him, after whipping a ball at someone, then threw another punch.
And even that's not the same, because Blount allegedly knocked out an asshole who had just made a racist comment to him. Gates sucker punched a guy who wasn't even looking at him, after whipping a ball at someone, then threw another punch.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 10, 2011 4:37pm
Mulva;1010288 wrote:The most comparable situation to Gates is probably LeGarrette Blount, and he was conditionally suspended for the year (and served 10/11 games before being reinstated).
And even that's not the same, because Blount allegedly knocked out an asshole who had just made a racist comment to him. Gates sucker punched a guy who wasn't even looking at him, after whipping a ball at someone, then threw another punch.
very good point
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 10, 2011 4:38pm
In the college game, you cannot be starting fights. That is the message that needs to sent and Gates is the face of the incident.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 10, 2011 4:38pm
This is most like the Blount punch, when it was a cheap shot. In other sports, its usually men going at EACH OTHER. Not here. Blount got the year, Hates should as well.
september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 10, 2011 4:42pm
karen lotz;1010313 wrote:very good point
Mulva;1010288 wrote:The most comparable situation to Gates is probably LeGarrette Blount, and he was conditionally suspended for the year (and served 10/11 games before being reinstated).
And even that's not the same, because Blount allegedly knocked out an **** who had just made a racist comment to him. Gates sucker punched a guy who wasn't even looking at him, after whipping a ball at someone, then threw another punch.
I agree. Also should be noted both had prior discipline/anger management issues before their punches.
oberhaus
Posts: 868
Dec 10, 2011 4:53pm
Hb31187;1010253 wrote:So
baseball when someone rushes the mound, throws the bat at the pitcher then punches him. Should he be out for the year too?
Should suh be otu for the year for a stomp with spikes on? Or when Wr's/Dbs get into it and throw punches at eachother should the be suspended for the year too lol?
Those are professional MEN. This is college boys playing. Gates should be gone. Professionals deal with contracts and shit. Its apples to oranges.
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Fred Flintstone
Posts: 366
Dec 10, 2011 4:54pm
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Sonofanump
Dec 10, 2011 10:10pm
#34 should get between 5-10 games. #13 the same. Somebody wearing a warmup also threw a punch. #5 from Xavier will be sitting a few games.
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Sonofanump
Dec 10, 2011 10:12pm
A good part of the year, yes. I'll find two examples closest to this. One is in the 60's with a Dodgers pitcher, the other about ten years ago in the minor leagues involving a mule kick.Hb31187;1010253 wrote:So
baseball when someone rushes the mound, throws the bat at the pitcher then punches him. Should he be out for the year too?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 10, 2011 10:26pm
It doesn't compare at all, basketball melees are deemed worse because at least in other sports when guys thug it out it is in the middle of the field and fans are dozens of yards away behind barriers. The clowns were duking out just a few yards from students and other fans.Hb31187;1010260 wrote:Why not lol? Comparing it to baseball and football where theres no rule that goes hand and hand with fighting is a fair comparison. Why is it not?
It compares very favorably to a baseball brawl actually
1) Chucking the ball, 2) cowardly cold-cocking a guy and 3) trying to get into another fight = multi-game suspension, perhaps off the team and maybe out of school.
Xavier deserves some suspensions as well, but Gates is going to get the biggest punishment, rightfully so.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 10, 2011 11:24pm
He was referring to something the "Pro Athletes"did while they were in college.Are you serious about comparing pro athletes and college kids?
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Dec 10, 2011 11:42pm
"We've got a bunch of gangsters in our locker room." Yeah, you're regular goodfellas. I think that was an Xavier player who said that in the post-game, and the Musketeers obviously had to stand up and defend themselves to a certain degree after Yancy Gates decided what the hell why not try to win by eating the other team, but what a mess.
After today, I'm not sure anyone could argue against the Crosstown Shootout being the most hostile rivalry in college basketball. It was taken to a new level today. I think Yancy Gates may have overreacted, though.
After today, I'm not sure anyone could argue against the Crosstown Shootout being the most hostile rivalry in college basketball. It was taken to a new level today. I think Yancy Gates may have overreacted, though.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Dec 10, 2011 11:54pm
in a black person dominated sport, a punch should have a season ban. other sports with white dominated (baseball, hockey) its just part of the game!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 10, 2011 11:57pm
Race Card FTW.rydawg5;1010817 wrote:in a black person dominated sport, a punch should have a season ban. other sports with white dominated (baseball, hockey) its just part of the game!
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 11, 2011 12:03am
Don't universities have a behavior code? I think at my school a fight at a campus event would get your ass in a sling quick.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 11, 2011 3:18am
"Whether or not somebody charged at you, and there are camera angles that show Yancy was being charged, there's no excuse. It wasn't showing restraint. There's got to be punishment." - Mick Cronin
Anyone see him being charged? Fairly confident that Frease wasn't the one charging him.
Although to be fair, Cronin could have been talking about 3 or 4 different points in the incident regarding Gates' actions, and not necessarily the sucker punch.
Anyone see him being charged? Fairly confident that Frease wasn't the one charging him.
Although to be fair, Cronin could have been talking about 3 or 4 different points in the incident regarding Gates' actions, and not necessarily the sucker punch.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 11, 2011 3:55am
There's no angle possible that shows anyone charging Gates before he escalated the fight by chucking the ball At or about the time of the sucker punch there was another Xavier guy trying to break it all up, but Gates didn't see him. He was busy sucker punching Frease. After that I'm sure some Xavier guys made a move towards him.Mulva;1010902 wrote:"Whether or not somebody charged at you, and there are camera angles that show Yancy was being charged, there's no excuse. It wasn't showing restraint. There's got to be punishment." - Mick Cronin
Anyone see him being charged? Fairly confident that Frease wasn't the one charging him.
Although to be fair, Cronin could have been talking about 3 or 4 different points in the incident regarding Gates' actions, and not necessarily the sucker punch.
I blame mostly Xavier for starting the mess, but Gates more or less singlehandedly escalated it and was out of control the whole time. Cronin should kick him off.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 11, 2011 4:06am
Gotta believe cronin is going to make an example out of a few guys. As he should.