Red Rum;1220855 wrote:Since there's not much going on....


Here's an FYI from the "for what it's worth" files......

WCAL WIN/LOSS RECORDS 2000-2012 (playoffs included)
1. Smithville
98-41 .705 8 playoff app. (2002 D5 State runnerup)

2. Dalton
82-50 .621 7 playoff app.

3. Norwayne
71-57 .554 3 playoff app. (2011 D4 State Champs)

4. Waynedale
67-59 .531 4 playoff app.

5. Northwestern
65-60 .520 3 playoff app.

6. Hillsdale
61-64 .488 2 playoff app.

7. Rittman
38-83 .314 1 playoff app.

8. Chippewa
31-89 .258 0 playoff app.



....and from "sadness & despair" folder

Chippewa is presently mired in a 23 game losing streak. Their last victory came against backyard rival Rittman on Oct 9 2009. (22-6 score)


note: all stats and facts are subject to my occasional inability to get information correct

Bloody Toothbrush;1221185 wrote:


I see the WCM from more of a Godfather movie point of view....

Santino....................Beast, hothead & big mouth. Dies in a hail of gunfire
Tom Hagen...............Otrap. He multiquotes you into submission
Fredo.......................Paul. Stupid yet oddly interesting
Michael....................Miyagi. A true cheat, liar and villan
Vito.........................Ringz. He's so old he has to be the godfather
Luca Brasi................Red Rum. He fits the role perfectly....big, dumb & mean.
Clemenza.................Luckydog. probably sleeps with a gun in real life.
Tessio......................Jmar. I think he knows more than he tells us.

Bloody Toothbrush;1221185 wrote:and things are so dead, Red Bum is breaking out the stat/fact lists.......whats next Rumhole, league opener records since 2000?

O-Trap;1221409 wrote:As for Rum's stats, I had to bring this up in the Chipps' defense. Just one year prior to that list, I believe they went 9-1 and went to the playoffs.

Bobcat;1221423 wrote:I'll explain my prediction Red Rum. .

Red Rum;1221496 wrote:very true. I think they upset Smithville for the title or a share of it that year (not positive though). Anyway, great Chip team.

1486wd;1221532 wrote:Bubba smith. One of the better wcl qbs i have seen

Bobcat;1220061 wrote:I predict Norwaynes offense will average more points this year then they did last year

Red Rum;1220088 wrote:That's a gutsy prediction Bobcat,

Red Rum;1220088 wrote:
15 games...686 pts....45.7 avg

10 games...470 pts....47.0 avg

7 conference games...339 pts....48.4 avg

Did Norwayne break the conference or regular season scoring record last year? I thought they did but I'm not sure.

Bobcat;1221423 wrote:I'll explain my prediction Red Rum. I think that a lot of the scoring success that Norwayne is enjoying is because of the system. I know execution is critical and the loss of Wallace is huge, however, Norwayne is returning a ton on the offensive side of the ball. It's going to be difficult for any team on the schedule to cover all the wide outs (Berger and Harris in particular) and Jon Zimmmerly is a beast at tailback. If the new QB can manage the game and not turn the ball over excessively they will score a bunch. The key is the fact that the defensive wont be nearly as good as it was a year ago. They will give up a lot more points which will keep the offense on the field more. Last years teams offensive unit spent a lot of time on the sidelines in the second half of many games. They could have scored a lot more but when the other team isnt scoring or is scoring very little you have to pull in the horns. I think this years team is going to have to score big to win in several of their games.

Jmar25;1220156 wrote:Ya. Was 2003 Waynedale with 444 for the regular season.

Red Rum;1221959 wrote:Bubba Smith had one of the better college careers for wcal players. I know he left Allegheny with a couple of school records, pass yds and TDs passes I think. No idea if he still holds them.

On the subject of the 1999 Chips, a little research revealed their only regular season loss was to Tuslaw ( L 0-14) and they won a playoff game (Martins Ferry 24-14) before running into Cardinal Mooney ( L 0-61)

O-Trap;1222427 wrote:By "they," you mean Tuslaw, right? As I recall, Chippewa lost in the first round that year.

Red Rum;1222459 wrote:No, I meant Chippewa. My obviously faulty memory had them(Chippewa) losing a wcal game and losing in the 1st round of the playoffs. When I started looking into it I found this
http://enquirer.com/editions/1999/11/09/spt_ohio_football.html

DIVISION IV
Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary 15, Akron Manchester 7
Cin. Indian Hill 26, Cin. Madeira 14
Coldwater 34, Tontogany Otsego 0
Coshocton 47, Navarre Fairless 18
Doylestown Chippewa 24, Martins Ferry 14
Germantown Valley View 44, Portsmouth 16
Girard 28, Atwater Waterloo 0
Ironton 28, Cin. Wyoming 14
Kenton 35, Bellville Clear Fork 28
Marion Elgin 21, Sparta Highland 13
Oak Harbor 24, Wauseon 13
Sandusky Perkins 49, Newton Falls 12
Struthers 27, Campbell Memorial 20
Wheelersburg 30, Hamilton Badin 7
Wickliffe 22, Chagrin Falls 20
Youngs. Mooney 19, Utica 16

then I was wandering around the youngstown vindicator website and found this....
http://www.vindy.com/news/2009/aug/23/1972/ (note: huge list starting in 1972)

Regional Semifinals
Sandusky Perkins 33, Girard 6
Coshocton 44, Struthers 7
Mooney 61, Doylestown Chippewa 0

I was around at this time and don't remember either of these games. I blame Miyagi and his penchant for convincing me to get plastered every football friday for decades.

thePITman;1222391 wrote:

I helped contribute to Waynedale's scoring.

Bobcat;1221423 wrote:I'll explain my prediction Red Rum. I think that a lot of the scoring success that Norwayne is enjoying is because of the system.

Jmar25;1223055 wrote:Quite a few people had a role in that as well...
It could have been a lot worse too. Seder yanked the starters after the first series in the 2nd half in 7 games. Triway, Dalton, and Smithville were the only games where they played past that point.

O-Trap;1223277 wrote:Dalton? Didn't they smoke Dalton that year?