grodt
Posts: 1,588
Dec 3, 2011 10:27pm
The insane part is that RGIII would have set the national record for passer rating if it wasn't for Wilson. Obviously the games from this week aren't in yet but they could both set the record.LJ;999831 wrote:Me too. Esp when he has a 191 overall passer rating. Although wilson has a 192.... RG3 has 1000 more passing yards and 8 more tds coming into this weekend
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 3, 2011 10:32pm
Pick6;999673 wrote:Monte Ball: 36 touchdowns (second most in NCAA history), with a good chance to break Barry Sanders record. 1622 yards rushing before tonight.
Trent Richardson: 23 total TDs, 1583 yds rushing.
One is pretty much the consensus Heisman favorite right now, while the other is hardly mentioned. GTFO
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 3, 2011 10:33pm
SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!Speedofsand;999860 wrote:
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 3, 2011 10:37pm
If there was a legitimate SEC bias then Mathieu would be getting some Heisman love.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 3, 2011 10:43pm
TM7 is possibly the best player in the country. One bad decision hurt him. He wouldnt of won anyhow because of the offense bias. A player like TM7 doesnt come around hardly ever while good QB's and RB's are around every year.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 3, 2011 10:49pm
the fact that he got caught with fake marijuana shouldnt have anything to do with judging who the most outstanding player in the country is.cats gone wild;999884 wrote:TM7 is possibly the best player in the country. One bad decision hurt him. He wouldnt of won anyhow because of the offense bias. A player like TM7 doesnt come around hardly ever while good QB's and RB's are around every year.
another flaw in the system.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 3, 2011 10:56pm
With him missing a game and having a bad game before the suspension and not doing much for a couple games after the suspension wouldnt help. But, possibly 9 games out of 13 he was a superstar making a ton of great plays that star players dont do in 4 years. He's the reason for LSU turning it around today. He causes turnovers and scores points on defense and special teams.Pick6;999911 wrote:the fact that he got caught with fake marijuana shouldnt have anything to do with judging who the most outstanding player in the country is.
another flaw in the system.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 3, 2011 11:21pm
If LaMichael James didn't miss two games he would be right in there too. Probably would have topped 2000 rushing yards.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 3, 2011 11:34pm
Ball is the best player in the country.
athlete37
Posts: 992
Dec 4, 2011 2:01am
Alabama has beaten every team they've played by 16 or more (except a loss to the best team in OT). And 10 of those 11 wins have been by 24 or more. Wisconsin lost to a 6-6 team in which Ball failed to get over 85 yards, a week after losing to a three loss team...
athlete37
Posts: 992
Dec 4, 2011 2:01am
Also, Tyrann Matheui or Luck is the best player... not Mante Ball.sleeper;1000049 wrote:Ball is the best player in the country.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 4, 2011 2:13am
Link?athlete37;1000258 wrote:Also, Tyrann Matheui or Luck is the best player... not Mante Ball.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 4, 2011 7:44am
who's Mante Ball? :rolleyes:athlete37;1000258 wrote:Also, Tyrann Matheui or Luck is the best player... not Mante Ball.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 4, 2011 8:26am
http://www.gfy.comsleeper;1000263 wrote:Link?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 4, 2011 8:47am
No way Richardson should win it over Ball
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 4, 2011 10:11am
The Heisman is a individual award not a team award.athlete37;1000257 wrote:Alabama has beaten every team they've played by 16 or more (except a loss to the best team in OT). And 10 of those 11 wins have been by 24 or more. Wisconsin lost to a 6-6 team in which Ball failed to get over 85 yards, a week after losing to a three loss team...
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 4, 2011 10:26am
Richardson only had 77 yds against 5-7 Tennesee. Lets look at the 1 common opponent Bama Wisky had, Penn State.athlete37;1000257 wrote:Alabama has beaten every team they've played by 16 or more (except a loss to the best team in OT). And 10 of those 11 wins have been by 24 or more. Wisconsin lost to a 6-6 team in which Ball failed to get over 85 yards, a week after losing to a three loss team...
Ball vs Penn state: 25 rushes ,156 yds, 4 Td's - Wisky wins 45-7
Richardson vs Penn State: 26 rushes , 111 yds, 2 Td's - Bama wins 27-11
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 4, 2011 11:07am
cats gone wild;999884 wrote:A player like TM7 doesnt come around hardly ever while good QB's and RB's are around every year.
Neither does Andrew Luck. Not every QB is the "best NFL prospect at the position since Peyton Manning".
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 4, 2011 1:29pm
He's not getting love because they don't give the Heisman to a kick returner. He has 2 int's this year.cats gone wild;999884 wrote:TM7 is possibly the best player in the country. One bad decision hurt him. He wouldnt of won anyhow because of the offense bias. A player like TM7 doesnt come around hardly ever while good QB's and RB's are around every year.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 4, 2011 1:32pm
What an ignorant statement.se-alum;1000569 wrote:He's not getting love because they don't give the Heisman to a kick returner. He has 2 int's this year.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 4, 2011 1:33pm
Other then lsu, Richardson was doing it against mediocre teams too. The sec just isn't the same this year as in the last few years.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 4, 2011 1:34pm
TM7 is very overrated. CBS didn't go to Tebow level status last night, but you could tell they were trying to throw TM7 to the front of the Heisman race.se-alum;1000569 wrote:He's not getting love because they don't give the Heisman to a kick returner. He has 2 int's this year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 4, 2011 1:34pm
The SEC wasn't that great the last few years either.Midstate01;1000578 wrote:Other then lsu, Richardson was doing it against mediocre teams too. The sec just isn't the same this year as in the last few years.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 4, 2011 1:36pm
LOL...ok.lhslep134;1000576 wrote:What an ignorant statement.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 4, 2011 1:39pm
He has 6 forced fumbles, 5 fumble recoveries, 2 defensive touchdowns, 16 pass breakup/deflections, and leads the team in tackles.se-alum;1000587 wrote:LOL...ok.
Yup, just a kick returner. Get out of here with your laughable ignorance.