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Dec 3, 2011 11:15 PM
karen lotz;999985 wrote:I know. I was just saying you can poke holes in any argument for either team.
Which is why there needs to be some type of playoff system. I don't know how it should be set up, or how the teams should be chosen, but having these types of discussions every year is getting old. Settle it on the field, and then at least you can say that all the teams that are "in the dicussion" had their chance to prove it.
Dec 3, 2011 11:15pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:15 PM
Crimson streak;999986 wrote:And oklahoma st can't stop the run? They have held Oklahoma to about 20 yards rushing tonight
29 yards on 26 attempts for an average of 1.1/attempt. Oklahoma averages 172 yds/game on the year.
Dec 3, 2011 11:15pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:15 PM
dazedconfused;999984 wrote:they probably do. i'd say easily the best unit in cfb
Everyone's buddy Mark May said its the best secondary he's seen in 10 years.
Dec 3, 2011 11:15pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:17 PM
cats gone wild;999998 wrote:Everyone's buddy Mark May said its the best secondary he's seen in 10 years.

That doesn't mean anything it's mark may he's a dumbass
Dec 3, 2011 11:17pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:18 PM
cats gone wild;999989 wrote:I dont know if you can blame the crash on the loss. If that was the case, Brett Favre shouldnt of had an amazing day the day after his dad died.
no you can't. the crash didn't affect them from going up 28-14 (or whatever it was) and it certainly didn't affect from choking it away
Dec 3, 2011 11:18pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:18 PM
bigkahuna;999991 wrote:OSU Ranked T-6th in the nation in fumble recoveries with 16

LSU Ranked T-37th in the nation in fumble recoveries with 11

OSU Ranked 2nd in the nation in INT with 21

LSU Ranked T-10th in the nation in INT with 16.

Don't let stats get in the way of your argument though.
Read into your post. Something dont add up. Oh wait, OSU must have a good amount of turnovers while LSU doesnt. And as I said, OSU plays in a pass happy league and LSU has the best secondary.
Dec 3, 2011 11:18pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:19 PM
Crimson streak;999986 wrote:And oklahoma st can't stop the run? They have held Oklahoma to about 20 yards rushing tonight
One game, how about the season. And remember they dont play many rushing teams.
Dec 3, 2011 11:19pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:20 PM
Ok and they held the top 3rd scoring offense to 3 points tonight. Didn't you say it's all about scoring not the yards?
Dec 3, 2011 11:20pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:21 PM
Crimson streak;1000007 wrote:Ok and they held the top 3rd scoring offense to 3 points tonight. Didn't you say it's all about scoring not the yards?
Choklahoma. That word says it all. Look at the whole schedule.
Dec 3, 2011 11:21pm
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bigkahuna

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Dec 3, 2011 11:23 PM
cats gone wild;1000003 wrote:Read into your post. Something dont add up. Oh wait, OSU must have a good amount of turnovers while LSU doesnt. And as I said, OSU plays in a pass happy league and LSU has the best secondary.
And yet you ignore the fact that OSU has more fumble recoveries than LSU. So, to recap, they have more turnovers period than LSU.

By the way. Top 50 passing offenses. Big XII-5 SEC-3. Not that much different.

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The SEC has more teams in the top 50 Rushing Offense than Big XII, so LSU's fumble recoveries shouldn't count because the SEC is Run Happy.
Dec 3, 2011 11:23pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:23 PM
cats gone wild;999989 wrote:I dont know if you can blame the crash on the loss. If that was the case, Brett Favre shouldnt of had an amazing day the day after his dad died.
I didn't say it did, I was just pointing out that they did find out that day.
Dec 3, 2011 11:23pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:24 PM
cats gone wild;1000009 wrote:Choklahoma. That word says it all. Look at the whole schedule.

They actually didn't play that horrible of a schedule. I believe it's actually better than bamas...
Dec 3, 2011 11:24pm
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bigkahuna

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Dec 3, 2011 11:24 PM
cats gone wild;1000006 wrote:One game, how about the season. And remember they dont play many rushing teams.
Bottom line is Oklahoma averages ≈172 yards a game and is being held to ≈ 30.
Dec 3, 2011 11:24pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:28 PM
bigkahuna;1000011 wrote:
By the way. Top 50 passing offenses. Big XII-5 SEC-3. Not that much different.
And...what did LSU do to those teams? Shut them down. Easy to figure out.
Crimson streak;1000016 wrote:They actually didn't play that horrible of a schedule. I believe it's actually better than bamas...
Didnt say they played a weak schedule.....was saying they gave up alot, i mean ALOT of offense and points all year. Dont act like one game is a whole season of good defense.
Dec 3, 2011 11:28pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:30 PM
cats gone wild;1000028 wrote:And...what did LSU do to those teams? Shut them down. Easy to figure out.

Didnt say they played a weak schedule.....was saying they gave up alot, i mean ALOT of offense and points all year. Dont act like one game is a whole season of good defense.

Not saying that but look at lsu's offense enough said
Dec 3, 2011 11:30pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:35 PM
cats gone wild;1000028 wrote:And...what did LSU do to those teams? Shut them down. Easy to figure out.

Didnt say they played a weak schedule.....was saying they gave up alot, i mean ALOT of offense and points all year. Dont act like one game is a whole season of good defense.
i know it was early in the season but lsu's d was at least reeling against west virginia. believe me, i know the tigers are worlds better since that game, just pointing it out
Dec 3, 2011 11:35pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:36 PM
Crimson streak;1000034 wrote:Not saying that but look at lsu's offense enough said
Averaging 40 points a game while giving up 12 and beating 8 ranked teams. enough said, /thread
Dec 3, 2011 11:36pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:37 PM
dazedconfused;1000052 wrote:i know it was early in the season but lsu's d was at least reeling against west virginia. believe me, i know the tigers are worlds better since that game, just pointing it out

Exactly honestly lsu's secondary is damn good but they haven't been tested by a great passing offense. Don't give me Arkansas cause there really not that good
Dec 3, 2011 11:37pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:38 PM
dazedconfused;1000052 wrote:i know it was early in the season but lsu's d was at least reeling against west virginia. believe me, i know the tigers are worlds better since that game, just pointing it out
What has LSU done all year vs top offenses or good QB's? Made them turn it over like crazy and score points. There hasnt been one game vs a good offense where LSU hasnt had multiple take aways. Right?
Dec 3, 2011 11:38pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:38 PM
Coming into today...
Oklahoma St. INTs/PA: 4.57
LSU INTs/PA: 4.55

So Oklahoma St. faces more passing teams but both pick off the opposition at about the same rate.

EDIT:
After todays games...
Oklahoma St.: 23 Ints / 510 PA = 4.51
LSU: 18 Ints / 392 PA = 4.59
Dec 3, 2011 11:38pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:39 PM
Lsu has 6-7 future pros in the secondary their backups will make the nfl
Dec 3, 2011 11:39pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:39 PM
Who has the better offense Oregon or ok state
Dec 3, 2011 11:39pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:39 PM
cats gone wild;1000053 wrote:Averaging 40 points a game while giving up 12 and beating 8 ranked teams. enough said, /thread

I count 5 ranked teams and 40 points a game is really misleading. There d and special teams have set up them with great field position and have had how many special team and defensive td's?
Dec 3, 2011 11:39pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:41 PM
sportchampps;1000063 wrote:Who has the better offense Oregon or ok state

It's tough I would say Oklahoma st. Because of the qb play
Dec 3, 2011 11:41pm
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Dec 3, 2011 11:41 PM
Crimson streak;1000055 wrote:Exactly honestly lsu's secondary is damn good but they haven't been tested by a great passing offense. Don't give me Arkansas cause there really not that good
How did Houston fare today? How did OSU fare against Iowa State? What about Baylor losing 3 games? Great passing isnt all that it takes to win games. Defense is. How much does it have to be stressed each year that defense wins titles? Again, look at past OK teams. No sense in arguing anymore, Ive proved my point.
Dec 3, 2011 11:41pm