GoJPM!
Posts: 799
Dec 5, 2011 7:37pm
Red Bull is kaput.
Hard to see anything better than mid-pack for Busch, at this point. Only if Penske were to poach a top guy from another team then that would be his best shot at a frontline drive. However don't see that happening. Could see him in Kyle Busch Motorsports though if sponsorship can be found. That won't be easy with Kurt's lousy attitude and behavior.
Hard to see anything better than mid-pack for Busch, at this point. Only if Penske were to poach a top guy from another team then that would be his best shot at a frontline drive. However don't see that happening. Could see him in Kyle Busch Motorsports though if sponsorship can be found. That won't be easy with Kurt's lousy attitude and behavior.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 5, 2011 8:22pm
I think Red Bull will be around, but as sponsors. I'm sure some investors will step up.
It sounds like Ragan is a lock, so there won't be any open rides from Penske picking anyone up.
It sounds like Ragan is a lock, so there won't be any open rides from Penske picking anyone up.
GoJPM!
Posts: 799
Dec 5, 2011 10:55pm
Red Bull is looking for investors but it's a tough sell in a tough economy so I would be surprised to see them in '12.
Ragan is not a Penske-type guy. He doesn't make a lot of waves, that's the only upside he has. Hornish, in the Nationwide Series, was finally getting a hang of the cars and type of racing at the end of this past season and he is still under contract Penske, AFAIK. If not Hornish, Trevor Bayne and Landon Cassill are intriguing options (though Bayne might be locked to Roush/Wood Brothers).
Ragan is not a Penske-type guy. He doesn't make a lot of waves, that's the only upside he has. Hornish, in the Nationwide Series, was finally getting a hang of the cars and type of racing at the end of this past season and he is still under contract Penske, AFAIK. If not Hornish, Trevor Bayne and Landon Cassill are intriguing options (though Bayne might be locked to Roush/Wood Brothers).
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 5, 2011 10:59pm
Ragan was in the Snowball Derby yesterday too, he did a good job. I think he had one little problem that lost him 2 or 3 laps. Ross Kenseth was 3rd.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Dec 5, 2011 11:06pm
If they get Landon Cassill I'm going to be so pissed when both of them are outrunning Earnhardt, Jr. considering Hendrick had both at one point.GoJPM!;1003692 wrote:Red Bull is looking for investors but it's a tough sell in a tough economy so I would be surprised to see them in '12.
Ragan is not a Penske-type guy. He doesn't make a lot of waves, that's the only upside he has. Hornish, in the Nationwide Series, was finally getting a hang of the cars and type of racing at the end of this past season and he is still under contract Penske, AFAIK. If not Hornish, Trevor Bayne and Landon Cassill are intriguing options (though Bayne might be locked to Roush/Wood Brothers).
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 5, 2011 11:15pm
GoJPM!;1003692 wrote:Red Bull is looking for investors but it's a tough sell in a tough economy so I would be surprised to see them in '12.
Ragan is not a Penske-type guy. He doesn't make a lot of waves, that's the only upside he has. Hornish, in the Nationwide Series, was finally getting a hang of the cars and type of racing at the end of this past season and he is still under contract Penske, AFAIK. If not Hornish, Trevor Bayne and Landon Cassill are intriguing options (though Bayne might be locked to Roush/Wood Brothers).
I don't think it was a coincidence that Ragan was released from his contract this morning too
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 6, 2011 11:21am
Its been known a for months that Roush has no 2012 money for Ragan's team and David has been looking.
Blaney is probably out of the 36 because TBR is broke and sponsors will dictate who the driver is.
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GRAND-AM fans will get a look at the future Tuesday and Wednesday at Daytona International Speedway in a two-day Rolex SportsCar Series test in preparation for the 50th Anniversary Rolex 24 At Daytona.
Four Corvettes are among the seven Daytona Prototypes entered, including three making their public debut. GT has a strong, 23-car turnout, including three new Ferrari F458 Italia Grand Ams, the American testing debut of the Audi R8 GRAND-AM, two Ford Mustangs and a Dodge Viper. The cars will make their competition debut at the 2012 Rolex Series season-opening Rolex 24 At Daytona on Jan. 28-29.
Mike Waltrip is in one of the Ferrari F458's.
Blaney is probably out of the 36 because TBR is broke and sponsors will dictate who the driver is.
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GRAND-AM fans will get a look at the future Tuesday and Wednesday at Daytona International Speedway in a two-day Rolex SportsCar Series test in preparation for the 50th Anniversary Rolex 24 At Daytona.
Four Corvettes are among the seven Daytona Prototypes entered, including three making their public debut. GT has a strong, 23-car turnout, including three new Ferrari F458 Italia Grand Ams, the American testing debut of the Audi R8 GRAND-AM, two Ford Mustangs and a Dodge Viper. The cars will make their competition debut at the 2012 Rolex Series season-opening Rolex 24 At Daytona on Jan. 28-29.
Mike Waltrip is in one of the Ferrari F458's.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 6, 2011 12:15pm
They exist????Speedofsand;1004167 wrote:GRAND-AM fans
Speedofsand
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Dec 6, 2011 2:01pm
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 6, 2011 2:05pm
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 6, 2011 2:07pm
Bant. That's not NASCAR. 
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 6, 2011 2:19pm
Anything at Daytona is overall relevant to Nascar. Except these headlights are not decals.
GoJPM!
Posts: 799
Dec 6, 2011 10:43pm
Ragan has known for over a month he wasn't going to be back with Roush next season. He was in Vegas at the SEMA show talking to everyone about next season. He was entertaining a possible gig in Nationwide in '12 if money could be found. He's pretty adamant that he won't be a start and parker in '12 in the Cup series.GoChiefs;1003714 wrote:I don't think it was a coincidence that Ragan was released from his contract this morning too
GoJPM!
Posts: 799
Dec 6, 2011 10:47pm
Eddie Cheever helped broker the deal that is bringing the Ferrari's F458s over here next season. Think he is planning on co-driving one in the 2012 Rolex 24, maybe with his kid, Edward the III.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 6, 2011 10:58pm
GoJPM!;1005040 wrote:Ragan has known for over a month he wasn't going to be back with Roush next season. He was in Vegas at the SEMA show talking to everyone about next season. He was entertaining a possible gig in Nationwide in '12 if money could be found. He's pretty adamant that he won't be a start and parker in '12 in the Cup series.
Yeah I know, it was pretty much a gimme once UPS announced they weren't returning.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 7, 2011 7:24pm
Mike Ford is out as the Crew Chief for the #11. Darrian Grubb is an expected replacement.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 7, 2011 11:04pm
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GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 8, 2011 11:31am
Red Bull Racing is closing the doors today, presumably for good.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Dec 9, 2011 5:14pm
Bout time!!!GoChiefs;1007171 wrote:Red Bull Racing is closing the doors today, presumably for good.
Now, if Toyota would just do the same!!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 9, 2011 6:23pm
LOL, Kurt Busch is meeting with Phoenix Racing about driving the #51 Chevy next season. James Finch had a deal in place with Ragan pending on whether or not he "found a better deal".
My favorite part:
Finch said Busch's behavior that led to what was described as a "mutual'' split with Penske Racing wouldn't discourage him from hiring the 2004 Cup champion. He also said he wouldn't tolerate Busch's sometimes volatile behavior. "Kurt, his talent is pretty good,'' Finch said. "He's one of the best there is, but I'm not going to listen to that s--- and pay him money."
Busch bitched so much about the equipment he had at Penske? Then contacts Phoenix Racing to drive for them? Ummm, OK.
My favorite part:
Finch said Busch's behavior that led to what was described as a "mutual'' split with Penske Racing wouldn't discourage him from hiring the 2004 Cup champion. He also said he wouldn't tolerate Busch's sometimes volatile behavior. "Kurt, his talent is pretty good,'' Finch said. "He's one of the best there is, but I'm not going to listen to that s--- and pay him money."
Busch bitched so much about the equipment he had at Penske? Then contacts Phoenix Racing to drive for them? Ummm, OK.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 9, 2011 6:24pm
Grubb has been officially named the Crew Chief for the #11 car next season.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 18, 2011 10:51am
Last week's news...Zippy leaves Gibbs for Smoke as competition director.
ARCA testing over 50 cars this weekend. Top speeds are 188mph.
ARCA testing over 50 cars this weekend. Top speeds are 188mph.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Dec 18, 2011 3:26pm
Did I miss the reason why Grubb was let go?
GoJPM!
Posts: 799
Dec 18, 2011 4:26pm
Zippy going to crew chief The Danica in her Cup races next season.
Kurt Busch to RPM in the 43? Best Buy leaving RPM to go to the 17 and Kenseth? Maybe no Kurt Busch in the 43? Bye bye AJ Allmendinger, hello Indy Cars?
Kurt Busch to RPM in the 43? Best Buy leaving RPM to go to the 17 and Kenseth? Maybe no Kurt Busch in the 43? Bye bye AJ Allmendinger, hello Indy Cars?
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 21, 2011 12:38am
Ford Riley DPG3 was here Monday & Tues. , Michael Shank Racing #60 from Pataskala
