Week 12: Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals

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Nov 27, 2011 5:19 PM
BR1986FB;989746 wrote:This is a VERY possible scenario. Holmgren was close to pulling the trigger on an "all in" Sam Bradford trade a few years ago. I could see the Browns throwing both 1st's a 2nd and a player at Indianapolis to move up. I know the speculation is that it will take three 1st's & more to move up. If Manning comes back healthy I see no way they give up on him. They will want to use high picks to make another Super Bowl run.
agreed man. if they were willing to go all in for sam bradford its very possible the will do it again. luck is head and shoulders over bradford.
Nov 27, 2011 5:19pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:21 PM
shook_17;989754 wrote:matt moore is looking good for them. i see them winning a few more games.
We can only hope Moore gets 'Ryan Fitzpatrick Syndrome" aka Fool's Gold and the Fins buy into it.
Nov 27, 2011 5:21pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:23 PM
BR1986FB;989763 wrote:We can only hope Moore gets 'Ryan Fitzpatrick Syndrome" aka Fool's Gold and the Fins buy into it.
hopefully. just like they thought ginn was worth the 9th overall pick lol
Nov 27, 2011 5:23pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:24 PM
And Luck's dad played HS football in Cleveland so dad knows the area.
Nov 27, 2011 5:24pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:25 PM
BR1986FB;989776 wrote:And Luck's dad played HS football in Cleveland so dad knows the area.
look what luck is doing at stanford. not really any big name players, and he gets shit done. the only winnable game we have is zona. i wouldn't be surprised if we sell out for luck.
Nov 27, 2011 5:25pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:30 PM
I'm not big on giving up a lot for Luck. I would rather stay put and take Barkley. I haven't seen much of a difference between the two of them
Nov 27, 2011 5:30pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:44 PM
Glad to get that win Cleve played tough.
Huge game nxt week vs Pit.
Nov 27, 2011 5:44pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:47 PM
Browns need to get rid of Schurmer fast. He is no good for Cleveland
Nov 27, 2011 5:47pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:48 PM
KR1245;989787 wrote:I'm not big on giving up a lot for Luck. I would rather stay put and take Barkley. I haven't seen much of a difference between the two of them
i haven't watch any games on barkley, i know he has some big time receivers, but ive watch luck with some no name receivers and he just makes it look so easy. the kid is so smart. has everything you look for in a qb.
Nov 27, 2011 5:48pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:51 PM
wghfan;989804 wrote:Browns need to get rid of Schurmer fast. He is no good for Cleveland
lol good luck with that. shurmur isn't going any where any time fast. get us to it. everybody cracks me up, they want stability here in cleveland and they want to fire shurmur and holmgren. shumur isn't the one dropping the balls and throwing into double coverage. he is clearly learning on the job and the last three weeks the offense has been coming together. i loved the 1st half game plan. 2nd half not so much. give it time
Nov 27, 2011 5:51pm
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Nov 27, 2011 5:54 PM
Looks like pussy Greg Little left the locker room before media was allowed in and wasn't interviewed. Man up.
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Nov 27, 2011 6:44 PM
KR1245;989787 wrote:I'm not big on giving up a lot for Luck. I would rather stay put and take Barkley. I haven't seen much of a difference between the two of them
Truth be told, I'd probably rather have Barkley as I agree with you.
Nov 27, 2011 6:44pm
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Nov 27, 2011 6:53 PM
shook_17;989809 wrote:i haven't watch any games on barkley, i know he has some big time receivers, but ive watch luck with some no name receivers and he just makes it look so easy. the kid is so smart. has everything you look for in a qb.
Barkley definitely has more talent around him and that plays a part in it. I just don't think the Browns are in a position to give up the number of picks it would take to get Luck. The gap between Luck and Barkley isn't big enough to trade away a first rounder imo
Nov 27, 2011 6:53pm
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Nov 27, 2011 6:59 PM
Greg Little killed so many drives with his inability to catch the football. Inexcusable for any NFL player, I don't care if he is a rookie.
Nov 27, 2011 6:59pm
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Nov 27, 2011 7:00 PM
like_that;989964 wrote:Greg Little killed so many drives with his inability to catch the football. Inexcusable for any NFL player, I don't care if he is a rookie.
He catches half of those drops and the Browns likely win.
Nov 27, 2011 7:00pm
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Nov 27, 2011 7:07 PM
BR1986FB;989970 wrote:He catches half of those drops and the Browns likely win.
Definitely. The catches would at least been good enough for another 3 points. I believe the Browns lead the league in most dropped passes this season, and it's not even close.
Nov 27, 2011 7:07pm
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Nov 27, 2011 7:12 PM
If were playing ifs, if Lewis doesnt try to throw the ball right before the half the Bengals would have had the lead most of the 2nd half. Bengals oline was owned the first half in pass protection and the dline owned the 2nd half. Mccoy was on the run most of that half which helped get the wins for the Bengals.
Nov 27, 2011 7:12pm
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Nov 27, 2011 7:24 PM
Lol at Barkley being better than Luck.
Nov 27, 2011 7:24pm
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Nov 27, 2011 7:41 PM
WHO DEY!!!
Nov 27, 2011 7:41pm
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Nov 27, 2011 8:06 PM
se-alum;990004 wrote:Lol at Barkley being better than Luck.

No one said he is better than luck. There saying there really isn't that big of a gap between luck and Barkley. I think they will both be very good qbs in the nfl
Nov 27, 2011 8:06pm
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Nov 27, 2011 8:17 PM
I don't want any part of trading multiple picks away for any player. They need help at too many other positions to even consider this.
Nov 27, 2011 8:17pm
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Nov 27, 2011 8:19 PM
royal_k;990098 wrote:I don't want any part of trading multiple picks away for any player. They need help at too many other positions to even consider this.
This.
Nov 27, 2011 8:19pm
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Nov 27, 2011 8:21 PM
But the question is "even with the pieces IN place, is McCoy 'the guy?" If this is supposedly the "best QB class since the 1983 draft" do you pass on that franchise guy?

Even with the pieces in place I don't believe McCoy is much more than a 2nd tier QB that might win you some games but won't take you deep into the playoffs. That interception today was a joke. He was "trying to throw it out of bounds?" (per his post game presser) If you're trying to throw it out of bounds you don't heave it 30+ yards down the field.
Nov 27, 2011 8:21pm
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Nov 27, 2011 8:29 PM
Even with the pieces in place I don't believe McCoy is much more than a 2nd tier QB that might win you some games but won't take you deep into the playoffs.
I feel the same way, but can't we say the same thing about Pat Shurmur? He's not going anywhere, so if there is no commitment to building a team that can actually win it all I guess I don't see that it really matters if you bring Colt back or fill other holes with draft picks.
Nov 27, 2011 8:29pm