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Nov 19, 2011 10:46 PM
tk421;979984 wrote:Barkley is just as good a QB without costing you number #1 money. I don't see that big of a drop off from Luck to Barkley.
With the new CBA, the salaries are slotted. Both Luck and Barkley will be had at bargain basement prices compared to many first round picks in the last few seasons where guys could basically hold out and negotiate depending on what everyone in front of them got.
Nov 19, 2011 10:46pm
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Nov 19, 2011 10:48 PM
Azubuike24;979992 wrote:With the new CBA, the salaries are slotted. Both Luck and Barkley will be had at bargain basement prices compared to many first round picks in the last few seasons where guys could basically hold out and negotiate depending on what everyone in front of them got.
If I'm a GM, I'd still think about trading my #1 pick if some other team wants Luck so bad to give up a future #1 and other picks. Don't know if the Colts would be doing that, I assume they will end up with the first pick.
Nov 19, 2011 10:48pm
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Nov 19, 2011 10:53 PM
Agreed. The Colts will hold a lot of the keys to how the draft plays out. In most years, where the #1 pick (especially a QB) would become 1 of the top 3 highest-paid players on your team, it would be impossible for them to swing it without getting rid of Peyton. However, with the slotted salaries, they should be able to afford the cap hit on Peyton and carry Luck for at least a year or two before deciding which direction to move. Definitely wouldn't have been possible prior to this CBA.
Nov 19, 2011 10:53pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:01 PM
Oh snap, got ourselves a ballgame
Nov 19, 2011 11:01pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:01 PM
Hb31187;979986 wrote:I agree with that. But when you have no weapons and your O coordinators favorite routes are 5 yard comebacks, or slant routes. It really doesnt matter hwo strong your arm is or how pro ready you are haha
my ideal pipedream draft for the first three rounds for the browns would be matt barkley, michael floyd, mike adams, lamichael james
Nov 19, 2011 11:01pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:02 PM
tk421;980001 wrote:If I'm a GM, I'd still think about trading my #1 pick if some other team wants Luck so bad to give up a future #1 and other picks. Don't know if the Colts would be doing that, I assume they will end up with the first pick.
All the dirt sheets have suggested that off the record GM's have said minimum 3 first round picks for luck plus 2 seconds and more. 2 first rounders + was standard protocol usually, but he has such a high grade it has been said that a team would have to part with 3 + the extra stuff.

I don't see anyone actually doing it, but 2 first rounders won't get it done.
Nov 19, 2011 11:02pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:05 PM
That's a catch......
Nov 19, 2011 11:05pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:06 PM
Wow, going to be a huge review...
Nov 19, 2011 11:06pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:06 PM
I agree. Sliver of green between his shoe and the sideline.
Nov 19, 2011 11:06pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:06 PM
Wow, his foot couldn't have been closer go the line. Looked like he was in, but is so close I'm not sure they can reverse it.
Nov 19, 2011 11:06pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:07 PM
And just like that, a FG game. Wow.
Nov 19, 2011 11:07pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:09 PM
USC has been able to move the ball running. Made a mistake last drive throwing it on 2nd down. We'll see what they do here...they are probably 3 first downs from icing it.
Nov 19, 2011 11:09pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:10 PM
If USC and Baylor were to both hold on, that would mean the BCS is probably #1 LSU, #2 Bama, #3 Arkansas.
Nov 19, 2011 11:10pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:16 PM
Shit USC, you had that one almost in the bag. Another turnover.
Nov 19, 2011 11:16pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:16 PM
uh oh...
Nov 19, 2011 11:16pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:16 PM
Son of a bitch USC.
Nov 19, 2011 11:16pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:16 PM
wow!
Nov 19, 2011 11:16pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:18 PM
gorocks99;980038 wrote:If USC and Baylor were to both hold on, that would mean the BCS is probably #1 LSU, #2 Bama, #3 Arkansas.
An all SEC national title game would guarantee them their 5th national title in a row, has that ever happened for one conference before?
Nov 19, 2011 11:18pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:19 PM
USC will lose this game because of turnovers. Up big on Oregon and mistakes let them come back.
Nov 19, 2011 11:19pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:19 PM
Deanthony Thomas is so goddamn fast lol, wonder what he'll clock in the 40
Nov 19, 2011 11:19pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:20 PM
Huge tackle there...cost Oregon 30 seconds.
Nov 19, 2011 11:20pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:21 PM
IggyPride00;980059 wrote:An all SEC national title game would guarantee them their 5th national title in a row, has that ever happened for one conference before?
6th.

Florida '06
LSU '07
Florida '08
Alabama '09
Auburn '10
Nov 19, 2011 11:21pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:21 PM
IggyPride00;980059 wrote:An all SEC national title game would guarantee them their 5th national title in a row, has that ever happened for one conference before?
They've already won 5 in a row.

Beaten to it.
Nov 19, 2011 11:21pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:21 PM
IggyPride00;980059 wrote:An all SEC national title game would guarantee them their 5th national title in a row, has that ever happened for one conference before?

6th straight, and most likely no.
Nov 19, 2011 11:21pm
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Nov 19, 2011 11:21 PM
IggyPride00;980059 wrote:An all SEC national title game would guarantee them their 5th national title in a row, has that ever happened for one conference before?
I found this on a website, don't know if it's true.
The most identifying characteristic of a dynasty is multiple championships in a row. No Conference in History has had 4 different teams in a row win a title. According to the article "SEC Builds Dynasty in College Football," Jon Solomon writes:


"Since the onset of the AP poll in football, two leagues had won three consecutive national titles prior to the SEC's current run. The Big Ten did it from 1940-42 (Minnesota twice and Ohio State), and the SEC from 1978-80 (Alabama twice and Georgia).
Nov 19, 2011 11:21pm