Which Program has the best chance to return to Glory soon?

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mallymal614

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Dec 11, 2009 10:49 AM
Notre Dame, Florida State, or Michigan?
Dec 11, 2009 10:49am
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the_system

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Dec 11, 2009 10:51 AM
I voted FSU strictly for the recruiting advantages of being in Florida.
Dec 11, 2009 10:51am
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Dec 11, 2009 10:56 AM
Notre Dame because their schedule is pretty vanilla with UM being down except for USC. But with the way FSU is recruiting since the coaching change I think they could shoot to the top first. If Brian Kelly figures out how to play defense ND could be there as early as next year, they got the players I think.
Dec 11, 2009 10:56am
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Dec 11, 2009 10:57 AM
Notre Dame--Kelly just seems like a good fit
Dec 11, 2009 10:57am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:00 AM
I think Kelly is the best coach of the three, but I think he needs a couple years to get Notre Dame really back. Although I do think he has a winning record next year.

I was a fan of Rodriguez, but they are bad. He is getting it done in recruiting though.
Dec 11, 2009 11:00am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:14 AM
Michigan.
Dec 11, 2009 11:14am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:16 AM
Michigan I feel there close to being back a lot of young talent
Dec 11, 2009 11:16am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:21 AM
the_system wrote: I voted FSU strictly for the recruiting advantages of being in Florida.
While being in Florida has its advantages, they do have to compete with Florida and Miami (2 major football powers) not too mention every other big time program coming down there and stealing recruits away.

I went with Notre Dame. With Brian Kelly and the Notre Dame schedule, he will do their what he did in Cincinnati. Strong offense, no defense get to a BCS bowl game, lose. That will be better than FSU and UM though.

UM is a looooonnnnngggggg way from being back to its former self, whether UM fans want to admit it or not. True, they won 2 more games than they did last year, but they actually ended up with a worse Big 10 record.
Dec 11, 2009 11:21am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:27 AM
dwccrew wrote: I went with Notre Dame. With Brian Kelly and the Notre Dame schedule, he will do their what he did in Cincinnati.
I know ND's schedule has been weak the past couple seasons but it will get tougher in the upcoming years. ND will have UM, USC and Oklahoma in 2012 and 2013.
Dec 11, 2009 11:27am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:32 AM
ND
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Dec 11, 2009 11:32 AM
rock_knutne wrote:
dwccrew wrote: I went with Notre Dame. With Brian Kelly and the Notre Dame schedule, he will do their what he did in Cincinnati.
I know ND's schedule has been weak the past couple seasons but it will get tougher in the upcoming years. ND will have UM, USC and Oklahoma in 2012 and 2013.
I'll give ya USC and Oklahoma, but I don't see Michigan being all that great in the next few years. Time will tell, but if Kelly can get his system in place, I see ND going anywhere from 0-2 losses a season and playing in BCS bowls consistently. Possibly winning ND's first BCS bowl ever.
Dec 11, 2009 11:32am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:34 AM
ND has some talent already there.
Dec 11, 2009 11:34am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:34 AM
dwccrew wrote:
the_system wrote: I voted FSU strictly for the recruiting advantages of being in Florida.
While being in Florida has its advantages, they do have to compete with Florida and Miami (2 major football powers) not too mention every other big time program coming down there and stealing recruits away.

I went with Notre Dame. With Brian Kelly and the Notre Dame schedule, he will do their what he did in Cincinnati. Strong offense, no defense get to a BCS bowl game, lose. That will be better than FSU and UM though.

UM is a looooonnnnngggggg way from being back to its former self, whether UM fans want to admit it or not. True, they won 2 more games than they did last year, but they actually ended up with a worse Big 10 record.
This.

Keep this in mind, all Kelly needs to do is go 9-3/10-2 and ND is in a BCS Bowl. FSU and UM have to compete in a conference and I don't care what anyone says, it is much tougher beating conference opponents who are familiar with you than OOC foes. Sure ND plays USC, Purdue, Michigan State each year but do you think those guy worry more about playig ND or winning their conference?

I really don't think FSU will return to their greatness for a long time. I seriously doubt they make the run they did before. As noted above, they have to compete with UF and Miami but now players leave the Sunshinie State to go all over. Throw in the fact that schools like USF, Florida Atlantic and International are now DI schools they will get the kids they got before.
Dec 11, 2009 11:34am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:36 AM
ND.
Dec 11, 2009 11:36am
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Dec 11, 2009 11:50 AM
ND, as I think they have the most talent of any of the 3 schools.
Dec 11, 2009 11:50am
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rocket31

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Dec 11, 2009 12:06 PM
i would say notre dame out of those three, however, i do not expect *much* success next season...
Dec 11, 2009 12:06pm
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devil1197

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Dec 11, 2009 12:07 PM
FSU. If they can get back to being competitive, they would rule the ACC imo.
Dec 11, 2009 12:07pm
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vball10set

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Dec 11, 2009 12:22 PM
hey Little Danny--how're you doing today? did you see this coming,or were you optimistic that BK would return to Cinci??
Dec 11, 2009 12:22pm
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Dec 11, 2009 12:37 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: UM
Maybe you were confused, but Miami was not a choice... You're welcome
Dec 11, 2009 12:37pm
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Dec 11, 2009 12:44 PM
Little Danny wrote:
dwccrew wrote:
the_system wrote: I voted FSU strictly for the recruiting advantages of being in Florida.
While being in Florida has its advantages, they do have to compete with Florida and Miami (2 major football powers) not too mention every other big time program coming down there and stealing recruits away.

I went with Notre Dame. With Brian Kelly and the Notre Dame schedule, he will do their what he did in Cincinnati. Strong offense, no defense get to a BCS bowl game, lose. That will be better than FSU and UM though.

UM is a looooonnnnngggggg way from being back to its former self, whether UM fans want to admit it or not. True, they won 2 more games than they did last year, but they actually ended up with a worse Big 10 record.
This.

Keep this in mind, all Kelly needs to do is go 9-3/10-2 and ND is in a BCS Bowl. FSU and UM have to compete in a conference and I don't care what anyone says, it is much tougher beating conference opponents who are familiar with you than OOC foes. Sure ND plays USC, Purdue, Michigan State each year but do you think those guy worry more about playig ND or winning their conference?
Disagree, Ty Willingham went 10-3 his first year and missed a BCS Bowl. ND plays Michigan, MSU, Purdue, Navy, USC, Stanford every year. Bit of a fun fact, the year Purdue smashed Notre Dame they had that final score engraved on their bowl rings. But yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't care about playing Notre Dame and are more worried about the Big 10.
Dec 11, 2009 12:44pm
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Dec 11, 2009 1:07 PM
dwccrew wrote:
the_system wrote: I voted FSU strictly for the recruiting advantages of being in Florida.
While being in Florida has its advantages, they do have to compete with Florida and Miami (2 major football powers) not too mention every other big time program coming down there and stealing recruits away.
I was talking about being IN Florida, not pulling athletes in Florida. They will get some talent in Florida and lose some. However, the advantage of showing a top prospect from the midwest, northeast, northwest, etc your sunny campus in Florida, with women galore is something Michigan and Notre Dame will never be able to do. A lot of them from warmer climates have zero interest in playing in that weather, and living in it for 4-5 years.
Dec 11, 2009 1:07pm
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Dec 11, 2009 1:26 PM
It depends on your definition of glory. If by glory you mean a national championship, then I think it's Notre Dame. If you mean a conference championship (obviously, ND isn't in a conference) and a BCS bowl birth then I think it's Michigan. Even though they do lack talent, they also are extremely young and have a ton of scholarships available currently.
Dec 11, 2009 1:26pm
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Tinkertrain

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Dec 11, 2009 2:07 PM
Michigan is much closer to returning to glory than most people realize.
Dec 11, 2009 2:07pm
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Dec 11, 2009 2:38 PM
Notre Dame. Brian Kelly is a fantastic coach and does a better job at getting all of his players to be detail orientated in pressure situations than just about anyone.
Dec 11, 2009 2:38pm
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Dec 11, 2009 2:47 PM
vball10set wrote: hey Little Danny--how're you doing today? did you see this coming,or were you optimistic that BK would return to Cinci??
I saw it coming. I figured he was gone as soon as Notre Dame lost to Navy. Now it's just time for the next coach to step into UC and carryon for here. Kelly did not leave the cupboard bare. Mark my words, UC will make a run for the BE title again next season.
Dec 11, 2009 2:47pm