Ohio State self-imposes 5 scholarship reduction for Failure to Monitor

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Nov 10, 2011 6:16 PM
This crap needs to stop. Clean house. Get rid of compliance, Smith, and the whole coaching staff.
Nov 10, 2011 6:16pm
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Nov 10, 2011 6:24 PM
Central Florida announcing their findings to the NCAA and dismissing a people. Oregon turning in stuff to the NCAA. Ohio State imposing penalties. Not shocked that schools are doing this stuff right in the thick of the Penn State/Joe Paterno scandal. Talk about staying under the radar.
Nov 10, 2011 6:24pm
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Nov 10, 2011 6:44 PM
Azubuike24;967127 wrote:Central Florida announcing their findings to the NCAA and dismissing a people. Oregon turning in stuff to the NCAA. Ohio State imposing penalties. Not shocked that schools are doing this stuff right in the thick of the Penn State/Joe Paterno scandal. Talk about staying under the radar.
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Nov 10, 2011 6:44pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:05 PM
They picked an opportune time to tell them, at least. with the PSU debacle, this one will largely fly under the radar.
Nov 10, 2011 7:05pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:16 PM
Azubuike24;967127 wrote:Central Florida announcing their findings to the NCAA and dismissing a people. Oregon turning in stuff to the NCAA. Ohio State imposing penalties. Not shocked that schools are doing this stuff right in the thick of the Penn State/Joe Paterno scandal. Talk about staying under the radar.
Absolute genius. Nobody cares about some extra cash and tattoos right now. Well except for probably the NCAA they will deem those things worse than what is going on in Happy Valley. It may not lessen their punishment but most of the public will think these things don't seem so bad.
Nov 10, 2011 7:16pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:35 PM
Get ready for USC like sanctions with this FTM tag...
Nov 10, 2011 7:35pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:44 PM
Scarlet_Fever;967175 wrote:Absolute genius. Nobody cares about some extra cash and tattoos right now. Well except for probably the NCAA they will deem those things worse than what is going on in Happy Valley. It may not lessen their punishment but most of the public will think these things don't seem so bad.
They don't deem it WORSE, but nothing PSU has done falls under their jurisdiction yet... it's all legal matters that the NCAA has absolutely no authority over.
Nov 10, 2011 7:44pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:56 PM
The NCAA will likely increase the scholarship hit or ban Ohio State from bowl play, but not both. Personally, I think that they will go with the former if they can't make an announcement by the end of the season.
Nov 10, 2011 7:56pm
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Nov 10, 2011 7:59 PM
Writerbuckeye;967077 wrote:This is a separate investigation, altogether. Thus a separate letter.
I know. Which is exactly what we tried to explain to that person. But they insisted. I remember there being a multi-page argument over it.
Nov 10, 2011 7:59pm
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Nov 10, 2011 8:37 PM
slingshot4ever;967193 wrote:Get ready for USC like sanctions with this FTM tag...
Yep. They're gonna face the death penalty. :rolleyes:
Nov 10, 2011 8:37pm
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Nov 10, 2011 9:21 PM
Scarlet_Fever;967175 wrote:Absolute genius. Nobody cares about some extra cash and tattoos right now. Well except for probably the NCAA they will deem those things worse than what is going on in Happy Valley. It may not lessen their punishment but most of the public will think these things don't seem so bad.
This is going to get old real quick. The PSU situation has nothing to do with the NCAA. And it's obviously much worse.
Nov 10, 2011 9:21pm
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Nov 10, 2011 9:22 PM
Writerbuckeye;967273 wrote:Yep. They're gonna face the death penalty. :rolleyes:
USC got the death penalty?
Nov 10, 2011 9:22pm
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Nov 11, 2011 5:25 AM
^^^

Writer is dumb. Blinders are always on...
Nov 11, 2011 5:25am
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Nov 11, 2011 11:54 AM
slingshot4ever;967510 wrote:^^^

Writer is dumb. Blinders are always on...
OSU will not get a bowl ban as USC did -- thus my sarcastic post above. OSU will not lose as many scholarships as USC did. OSU will not face the same sanctions as USC because the cases are very different and because OSU cooperated while USC did not. Also, USC faced loss of institutional control allegations; OSU is facing failure to monitor, which is a lesser charge in the hierarchy of the NCAA.

The only dumb folks here are those who don't read both cases and realize the major differences involved.
Nov 11, 2011 11:54am
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Nov 11, 2011 11:55 AM
How long until Gene Smith is gone? I won't be satisfied until he is out.
Nov 11, 2011 11:55am
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Nov 12, 2011 7:53 AM
I wish they'd stop self imposing, 'cause I really don't think it helps. IMO, THE OSU will get another 1-2 schollys (on the top of the 5) taken away, with a couple of years probation. I also don't think they'll be a bowl ban.



Edit: I believe this FTM charge will mean the end of Smith's tenure at OSU...he's out.
Nov 12, 2011 7:53am
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Nov 12, 2011 8:48 AM
Smith I believe received a letter of reprimand from Gee, Smith's reaction seemed typical in that he felt he was being thrown under the bus for everything that's gone on...well no shit Gene if the effin shoe fits brah...

He'll be gone following UM game. He can't possibly expect to have a job following this debacle.

As for the bowl ban...it better be this year, I've heard that the NCAA findings and sanctions won't be known until after the B1G championship game...all the players in what the sanctions have resulted will be gone so it should not carry over past this season in order to at least to appear fair, the ban should be for the Car Quest, Meineke Muffler bowl this season.
Nov 12, 2011 8:48am
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Nov 12, 2011 10:32 AM
thedynasty1998;967307 wrote:This is going to get old real quick. The PSU situation has nothing to do with the NCAA. And it's obviously much worse.
Not yet. A kid in S. Carolina, a senior, says that Jerry Sandusky recruited him within the last year to go to PSU. If investigated and true, then Sandusky is a representative of PSU which might bring in the NCAA.
Nov 12, 2011 10:32am
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Nov 12, 2011 10:36 AM
GoPens;968960 wrote:Not yet. A kid in S. Carolina, a senior, says that Jerry Sandusky recruited him within the last year to go to PSU. If investigated and true, then Sandusky is a representative of PSU which might bring in the NCAA.
Not only that, but seriously, if this doesn't SCREAM lack of institutional control then those two words should never be uttered by an NCAA official ever again.
Nov 12, 2011 10:36am
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Nov 12, 2011 10:42 AM
GoPens;968960 wrote:Not yet. A kid in S. Carolina, a senior, says that Jerry Sandusky recruited him within the last year to go to PSU. If investigated and true, then Sandusky is a representative of PSU which might bring in the NCAA.
That report was false.
Nov 12, 2011 10:42am
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Nov 12, 2011 1:15 PM
dat dude;968964 wrote:That report was false.
Expect plenty of garbage to come out now. Similar to the Tressel situation, the media will stop at nothing to make the story bigger than it is. The media made kids selling their own property seem like they all killed someone and ran the train on some high school girls.
Nov 12, 2011 1:15pm
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Nov 17, 2011 4:57 AM
Ohio State, This team has been through hell this season. As terrible as this season has gone for the Bucks, they still find themselves in position to win a Big Ten Championship

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Nov 17, 2011 4:57am
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Nov 17, 2011 6:58 AM
ytownfootball;968878 wrote:Smith I believe received a letter of reprimand from Gee, Smith's reaction seemed typical in that he felt he was being thrown under the bus for everything that's gone on...well no **** Gene if the effin shoe fits brah...

He'll be gone following UM game. He can't possibly expect to have a job following this debacle.
I've found that guy hilarious through this whole thing. His explanations I think went like this:
"Rogue players."
"Rogue coach."
"Rogue booster."
"More rogue players."

Like, everybody was out there doing their own thing so it wasn't his issue. Because, you know, a school/AD is never accountable for their players/coaches/boosters being a bunch of lone rangers.
Nov 17, 2011 6:58am
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Nov 17, 2011 7:19 AM
OSU now considering self bowl ban for this year.
Nov 17, 2011 7:19am
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Nov 17, 2011 7:34 AM
Link?
Nov 17, 2011 7:34am