Week 12...Norwayne Bobcats vs. Orrville Red Riders

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beverboy1
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Nov 13, 2011 12:15pm
it looked like a backyard gm we played as kids !!
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Birddog
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Nov 13, 2011 12:19pm
beverboy1;970661 wrote:it looked like a backyard gm we played as kids !![/QUOTE
Exactly but we were better.
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jaco
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Nov 13, 2011 12:31pm
Birddog;970659 wrote:As it goes at least three WCAL teams would have beat the riders this year. Brenner the real deal clearly the best player on the field last night. Orrville had no clear game plan at all. Just like go get open. Maybe they need to evaluate their entire staff and make some changes. Which normally starts at the top. Goodluck to norwayne they have a bunch of good players, but no clear stand outs.
Let's not get crazy. I'm a long time WCAL guy, but I realize it for what it is. No state titles and only Smithville and Waynedale have ever made any noise deep into the playoffs. Claiming a couple of D4 and D5 schools could win the OCC is a reach. Nobody can argue the level of competition Orrville faced weekly wasn't FAR superior than playing Rittman, Doylestown, Northwestern, etc. The fact is this is a very good Norwayne team this season - and this was not one of Orrville's best. Broad over generalizations are foolish.
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thedemoralizer7
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Nov 13, 2011 12:33pm
dontcare;970238 wrote:You must have been one of those Orrville fans that walked out and emptyed the stands on your side with about 3 to 4 minutes left in the game, way to support your team.

Congrats to Norwayne on a great win, good luck next week.
actually i stayed the whole game and supported orrville. i was just dissapointed orrville didnt have a better gameplan. They should of watched the smithville game tape. Also i thought norwayne wanted it alot more than orrville last night
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Coach 08
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Nov 13, 2011 12:38pm
Birddog-With all do respect you cannot say Hillsdale and Smithville would have beaten Orrville this year also, really? Norwayne has a lot different style and better overall athletes than Smithville or Hillsdale. Not saying they could not compete but really Birddog??
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Coach 08
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Nov 13, 2011 12:40pm
thedemoralizer7;970684 wrote:actually i stayed the whole game and supported orrville. i was just dissapointed orrville didnt have a better gameplan. They should of watched the smithville game tape. Also i thought norwayne wanted it alot more than orrville last night
Orrville did watch the Smithville game that was one of the films they got from Norwayne.
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THE4RINGZ
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Nov 13, 2011 12:53pm
As fan of neither team, I left early to beat the cluster of traffic. And to get through Creston prior to the riot starting.
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Birddog
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Nov 13, 2011 1:02pm
Really coach Smithville man handled norwayne up front and norwayne could not run on either Hillsdale or Smithville., but ran all of over the riders. Norwayne had to use a last minute drive to beat Hillsdale by passing. I am just saying both teams would probably beat Orrville with their running game's. Yes Brenner is better than anyone those other three have, but one player can't do it all.
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thePITman
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Nov 13, 2011 1:04pm
thedemoralizer7;970684 wrote:Also i thought norwayne wanted it alot more than orrville last night
I said that exact same thing during the game last night.
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Mr. Russell
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Nov 13, 2011 1:05pm
I honestly don't think Norwayne has better athletes than Smithville or Hillsdale. I am not doing this if or what could happen stuff, but there are many players who would start for Orrville from both schools. I know that for a fact. I also don't get how you can say Brenner is better than anyone the 3 WCAL champs have. Did you watch the game last night? Great season Orrville, week 12 and on is becoming a normality. Very impressive.
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thePITman
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Nov 13, 2011 1:12pm
I saw last night why Davault tried to get Wallace to come to Orrville. One heckuva a player. Can you imagine him running the offense with Turner & Davault on the outside and Monhem running the ball? Wow. But I guess that "Wow" still applies to Norwayne, who really proved themselves last night! Good luck to Norwayne next week against Girard at Green HS.
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Birddog
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Nov 13, 2011 1:15pm
Mr. Russell;970720 wrote:I honestly don't think Norwayne has better athletes than Smithville or Hillsdale. I am not doing this if or what could happen stuff, but there are many players who would start for Orrville from both schools. I know that for a fact. I also don't get how you can say Brenner is better than anyone the 3 WCAL champs have. Did you watch the game last night? Great season Orrville, week 12 and on is becoming a normality. Very impressive.
because I have seen all them play and he the best athlete and football player. No disrespect to the others just my opinion.
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Go Falcons
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Nov 13, 2011 1:24pm
Had the field been better at Creston, I think Hillsdale would have had a much different game plan. However after watching the Cats last night, I am not sure it may have not been worse for my Falcons.
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Nov 13, 2011 1:25pm
Great athletes don't win games....playing as a team, a unit, being able to rely on the guy next to you to get his job done wins you these games. I was very upset with a certain Orrville player who looked like he didn't want to be there and gave little effort if he didn't have the ball, I'm sure you can figure out who I'm talking about.

This game hurts, but we deserve it and got beat by a great team last night.


Good luck Bobcats!
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oldsmithie
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Nov 13, 2011 1:45pm
Just got to a computer, and I have to say WOW! I did not see this one coming, it makes me realize how special it was for Smithville to win against the Cats. Sounds like Norwayne was hitting on all cylinders. Good luck next week! In all fairness, we WCAL fans cannot use one game to determine how we would have fared against Orrville in a 30 year span. I hope that the powers that be, in Orrville would give serious thought to schedualing a WCAL team now and then.
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RedRider1
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Nov 13, 2011 1:59pm
thePITman;970728 wrote:I saw last night why Davault tried to get Wallace to come to Orrville. One heckuva a player.

Hopefully that's a poor choice of words. You make it sound like Wallace was recruited to come to Orrville.
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thePITman
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Nov 13, 2011 2:04pm
RedRider1;970838 wrote:Hopefully that's a poor choice of words. You make it sound like Wallace was recruited to come to Orrville.
Check your PMs. :)
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RedRider
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Nov 13, 2011 2:05pm
Trust me Norwayne did not want it any more than Orrville, just Norwayne played better last night and won.
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Coach 08
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Nov 13, 2011 4:18pm
Birddog- Smithville is big up front and run the ball well, but orrville would be way to fast for them, did you go to the Smithville playoff game? Also Norwayne's passing game was not very good and all they did was throw the ball long against Smithville. Last night they started hitting the guys underneath and letting there WR make plays.
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Mr. Russell
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Nov 13, 2011 4:50pm
After going to many games this year this is what I am sure of. The rest is pure speculation.
Norwayne > Orrville
Norwayne > Hillsdale
Smithville > Norwayne
Hillsdale > Smithville
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you think you know
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Nov 13, 2011 6:45pm
OQB;970745 wrote:Great athletes don't win games....playing as a team, a unit, being able to rely on the guy next to you to get his job done wins you these games. I was very upset with a certain Orrville player who looked like he didn't want to be there and gave little effort if he didn't have the ball, I'm sure you can figure out who I'm talking about.

This game hurts, but we deserve it and got beat by a great team last night.


Good luck Bobcats!
I was disappointed with his play also, just go north and south, quit going east and west.
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Series62
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Nov 13, 2011 8:31pm
OQB;970745 wrote:Great athletes don't win games....playing as a team, a unit, being able to rely on the guy next to you to get his job done wins you these games. I was very upset with a certain Orrville player who looked like he didn't want to be there and gave little effort if he didn't have the ball, I'm sure you can figure out who I'm talking about.

This game hurts, but we deserve it and got beat by a great team last night.


Good luck Bobcats!
Was it not obvious that Brenner's passes were designated to a certain player for the most part, and if that player wasn't open, Brenner rarely, if at all looked for an alternate open receiver, he just took off running. On several occasions, Orrville would line up 2 or 3 receivers on one side of the field with 1 or 2 db's covering deep, (10+ yards off), Brenner rarely threw to them and they were open much of the night!


As far as running north and south in lieu of east and west, the few passes Turner received were those ridiculous lateral/1-yard forward passes. By the time the ball got to him so to did 2-3 Norwayne defenders and east/west was his only option to attempt to get open. Norwayne's defenders are faster than Orrville obviously realized. Does it not strike you odd that Turner is the fastest guy on the field but Orrville's coaching staff never sent him deep, throwing the ball to a spot deep and force Norwayne to "catch" him.

Turner was an empty threat that Orrville wouldn't use correctly and it appeared that Norwayne knew it!
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OQB
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Nov 13, 2011 8:36pm
yes, very odd gameplan....
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1_beast
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Nov 13, 2011 8:48pm
I think I said last week "This Norwayne TEAM reminds me alot of the 2010 Riders that went to the Final 4"

Anyone care to agree or disagree on that comment now?
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Nov 13, 2011 9:50pm
Video highlights and some interviews by The Daily Record. Pretty neat!

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