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Nov 5, 2011 3:58 PM
Like it? Hate it? Air force v army right now.
Nov 5, 2011 3:58pm
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Nov 5, 2011 4:21 PM
Love it. Tommy Frazier hooked me.
Nov 5, 2011 4:21pm
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Nov 5, 2011 4:40 PM
Much bigger fan of the spread option than the triple option.
Nov 5, 2011 4:40pm
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Nov 5, 2011 5:03 PM
I enjoy watching Georgia Tech on occasion. Don't want to watch it weekly though.
Nov 5, 2011 5:03pm
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Nov 5, 2011 5:05 PM
If it's a team like GT with some more talented skill position guys it is awesome to watch.
Nov 5, 2011 5:05pm
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Nov 5, 2011 5:15 PM
Love it.

Obviously I love the Spread more, but the triple option is very effective/efficient.

Georgia Tech has become a fun watch with it, especially since they have the athletes as failnasty mentioned.

BTW, it's very effective in the NCAA Football games.

I've used it against friends and online at times and people have a hard time stopping it.
Nov 5, 2011 5:15pm
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Nov 5, 2011 5:31 PM
I love option football. Since it's made a comeback, there have been some pretty bad terminology errors.

The traditional spread option is a triple option (i.e. running the veer), but from a spread or flexbone-esque formation instead on wishbone/i/splitbacks/T.

The spread teams today that run it mostly run the zone read/zone triple or speed option to the short side, so basically more of a double option look with some midline inside. They're spread teams running the option, but they're not running the spread option.
Nov 5, 2011 5:31pm
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Nov 5, 2011 6:54 PM
Love it. Ran it. Coach it.
Nov 5, 2011 6:54pm
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Nov 5, 2011 8:35 PM
I like it, for the biggest reason being it takes an aggressive defense and slows them down. Look at IU today, the Bucks got very little pressure on the QB they were looking and reading. It lets you control the clock. I love it when people say a team throws a lot just because they spread it out.
Nov 5, 2011 8:35pm
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Nov 5, 2011 9:01 PM
Love it!!
Nov 5, 2011 9:01pm
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Nov 5, 2011 9:02 PM
I love it.
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Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM
I love it. I never ran it as a player and then had to coach against it and struggled the first few times I faced it. Then I went to a school that ran it and ran it well. I learned so much of the little, subtle things that change what you are doing. If I was to return to coaching, I would blend the option game with some wing-t schemes. I always wonder why schools that are traditionally weaker teams keep running what everyone else runs, knowing they lose the recruiting battle every year. All they do is set themselves up to stay at the bottom. I would love to go to a school that is at the bottom, install the offense and recruit the heck out of the 5'8-5'11 RBs that everyone says are too small, but have quicks. Make one the QB and the others would be the HB/WB spots. Get a FB that can run and is tough. You could make a school like Indiana relevant again. The last "good" team they had? Randle-el was running the show.
Nov 7, 2011 10:44am
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Nov 7, 2011 11:34 AM
Falcons53;961878 wrote:I love it. I never ran it as a player and then had to coach against it and struggled the first few times I faced it. Then I went to a school that ran it and ran it well. I learned so much of the little, subtle things that change what you are doing. If I was to return to coaching, I would blend the option game with some wing-t schemes. I always wonder why schools that are traditionally weaker teams keep running what everyone else runs, knowing they lose the recruiting battle every year. All they do is set themselves up to stay at the bottom. I would love to go to a school that is at the bottom, install the offense and recruit the heck out of the 5'8-5'11 RBs that everyone says are too small, but have quicks. Make one the QB and the others would be the HB/WB spots. Get a FB that can run and is tough. You could make a school like Indiana relevant again. The last "good" team they had? Randle-el was running the show.
There is def a hell of a lot more to the option than meets the eyes. Nebraska used to wreck shit running the option. My HS ran it (they still do), and they have been pretty successful with it, however the the offense can also be frustrating.


Pros:
-Great ball controlling offense. If the the option is working, you can wear the defense out, run the clock, and keep the other offense off the field. I have seen defenses just give up, because they are so tired from 3.5 qtrs of the option.
-Great way to overcome lack of athletes.
-Difficult for the defense to read.

Cons
-Lack of balance/passing game. I know my HS hardly passes, which is why they never can beat the likes of Elder, St X, etc in the playoffs, because there is no balance. If they do pass, it is always a roll out pass, which takes away half of the field.
-Very difficult to come back from behind with this offense. Scoring with the option takes a big chunk out of the clock, especially when the drive begins deep in your own territory.
Nov 7, 2011 11:34am
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Nov 7, 2011 11:55 AM
You have to be willing to win 10-7, 14-7, 17-14 and games like that. You have to have patience. Honestly, I would rather be (at the college level) 8-4, 9-3 every year and be frustrated that we can't get over the hump than be 3-9, 4-8 every year and saying if we can just get that big time QB to come to our school, we could be a contender. At the high school level, I would rather be 8-2 every year and in the play-offs than 2-8 most years and have one 9-1 or 10-0 year when we are blessed to have 3 D-1 recruits come through. Football at the high school level has never been simply about who has the most talent. That is the beauty of team work and what it teaches kids about group success and the possibilities of overcoming odds.
Nov 7, 2011 11:55am
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Nov 7, 2011 12:20 PM
Paul Johnson HC @ Georgia Tech installed the triple option at Navy and literally turned the program around. It's precision when run properly is a thing of beauty.
Nov 7, 2011 12:20pm
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Nov 7, 2011 2:08 PM
It's boring football.
Nov 7, 2011 2:08pm
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Nov 7, 2011 2:16 PM
dlazz;962127 wrote:It's boring football.
This helps.
Nov 7, 2011 2:16pm
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Nov 7, 2011 2:39 PM
Loved the wishbone type offense.

Brings back memories of my college days upstate....Ed Marinaro (Cornell ...Vikings Jets and Seahawks) vs. Mark VanEeghen (Colgate...Oakland Raiders)....would amass huge amounts of yards in their annual meetings.
Nov 7, 2011 2:39pm
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Nov 8, 2011 12:10 AM
It's a great equalizer when ran against a more talented opponent. Nowdays teams see it so seldom that they struggle to stop it. To stop the true triple option, you must attack it, if you sit and read, it will destroy you 3,4, and 5 yards at a time. Our high school still runs the wishbone with a true triple option which has allowed them to contend for league championships almost every season. They do as was mentioned above struggle to go deep in the playoffs because of no balance but have won 1 state championship and played in the semis another time. It's fun to watch teams struggle to even find the ball let alone stop it.
Nov 8, 2011 12:10am
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Nov 8, 2011 9:05 AM
0311sdp;962879 wrote:It's a great equalizer when ran against a more talented opponent. Nowdays teams see it so seldom that they struggle to stop it. To stop the true triple option, you must attack it, if you sit and read, it will destroy you 3,4, and 5 yards at a time. Our high school still runs the wishbone with a true triple option which has allowed them to contend for league championships almost every season. They do as was mentioned above struggle to go deep in the playoffs because of no balance but have won 1 state championship and played in the semis another time. It's fun to watch teams struggle to even find the ball let alone stop it.
Which HS?

If anybody wants to see the tripole option run to perfection, just search the 2004 Colerain Cardinals highlights.
Nov 8, 2011 9:05am
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Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM
Big Ten schools do not use it, therefore it is a gimmick offense. :)
Nov 8, 2011 10:15am
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Nov 8, 2011 9:16 PM
Dont like it at all
Nov 8, 2011 9:16pm
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Nov 9, 2011 12:35 AM
like_that;963129 wrote:Which HS?

If anybody wants to see the tripole option run to perfection, just search the 2004 Colerain Cardinals highlights.

Truth. Dominick Goodman was unbelievable that year. They had a RB go to Michigan too if I remember right, though he didn't do much. Just got in trouble with the law in the last year I think. But I remember watching the state championship game in amazement at how easy Goodman made the option look.

Edit: Mister Simpson was the RB I was thinking of
Nov 9, 2011 12:35am
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Nov 9, 2011 2:15 AM
like_that;963129 wrote:Which HS?

If anybody wants to see the tripole option run to perfection, just search the 2004 Colerain Cardinals highlights.
Small HS D6 most years D5 this year (Carey) Northwest ,OHio
Nov 9, 2011 2:15am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:26 AM
It is a great equalizer. I think what happend was so many people ran it back in the day therefore everyone knew how to defend it. I think that is why it is successful now. Iowa showed vs GT that if you have a month to prepare you can stop it. With only a week, it will exploit your mistakes.

I love it because it just adds another dimension to my favoirte sport.
Nov 9, 2011 9:26am