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Nov 9, 2011 8:48 AM
Tiernan;964534 wrote:^
As many others have already said...of course he knew everything in 1998...we now know that is clearly why Sandusky "retired". And we also now know another incident in 2002 was again swept under the rug without any law enforcement or child services contact made. JoePa is clearly culpable of allowing child molestation to continually occur in his community. He must go immediately and unfortunately his complete body of work is now forever stained by heinous incidents that he didn't personally commit, but could heve personally prevented and chose not to do so.
Has any of that actually been proven?
Nov 9, 2011 8:48am
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Nov 9, 2011 8:51 AM
Tobias Fünke;964536 wrote:Has any of that actually been proven?
Yes. No one at Penn St. tried to identify the victim in the '02 rape. The Penn St. brass (including JoePa) testified to that.

Again, taking the best possible light of the allegations, at best they all need to lose their jobs.
Nov 9, 2011 8:51am
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Nov 9, 2011 8:56 AM
Yes It Has...that clear nough for ya?
Nov 9, 2011 8:56am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:16 AM
How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
Nov 9, 2011 9:16am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:19 AM
Skyhook79;964578 wrote:How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
Maybe his wife is morally accountable, we don't know though that she was told what was going on, so we are waiting to hear her side. Paterno however admitted it was reported to him and did the minimum that was LEGALLY required. That officially makes him scum.
Nov 9, 2011 9:19am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:30 AM
dat dude;964324 wrote:I'm curious as to what the Paterno apologists have to say about the fact that Sandusky was still using the lockeroom last week despite the fact McQueary, THE CURRENT RECRUITING COORDINATOR, testified before the grand jury in DECEMBER of 2010. How is that excusable?? Are you telling me Paterno didn't know about McQueary's testimony?
2kool4skool;964329 wrote:Good question that is sure to be dodged.
Good call.
Nov 9, 2011 9:30am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:48 AM
I understand the points from both sides of the argument, however it seems quite a few posters on here are criticizing JoePA and PSU for all the wrong reasons.
Nov 9, 2011 9:48am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:50 AM
like_that;964641 wrote:I understand the points from both sides of the argument, however it seems quite a few posters on here are criticizing JoePA and PSU for all the wrong reasons.
Then please tell us why they should be criticized?
Nov 9, 2011 9:50am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:54 AM
ESPN is reporting former PA Governor and Homeland Security leader Tom Ridge will be announced as the new President of Penn State.
Nov 9, 2011 9:54am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:55 AM
He gone
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:55 AM
JoePa that is, after the season
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:55 AM
Mike & Mike just said Paterno is retiring at the end of the season, per an AP alert.
Nov 9, 2011 9:55am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:57 AM
ESPN just reported but at the end of the season?? Needs to be today dammit!
Nov 9, 2011 9:57am
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Nov 9, 2011 9:57 AM
Tom Rinaldi will interview him at 1 today.
Nov 9, 2011 9:57am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:04 AM
I think PSU is really screwing up here by letting him finish the season.
Nov 9, 2011 10:04am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:06 AM
enigmaax;964660 wrote:Mike & Mike just said Paterno is retiring at the end of the season, per an AP alert.
Makes sense he is in his last year of his contract.
Nov 9, 2011 10:06am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:07 AM
I think maybe let him coach (run out on the field one last time) this Saturday for senior day and then show him the door. I wouldn't be surprised if he announced after Saturdays game he was done.
Nov 9, 2011 10:07am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:07 AM
What about Big Red? How the heck can he conitnue to be a coach on this football team?
Nov 9, 2011 10:07am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:25 AM
Skyhook79;964578 wrote:How come no one mentions Sandusky's wife? Of all people shouldn't she have known what was going on? A lot of the alleged attacks occurred in the basement of their home, yet Paterno was suppose to know everything that was going on at the Campus of Penn St? What about his 6 adopted children, surely they might be aware of what was going on. Why no mention of them? Too many unanswered questions for me to string up Joe Pa just yet.
Go back and read the GJ report: Paterno testifies that MM told him what was going on in the shower was SEXUAL. Yet now Paterno is saying, "I was fooled". How does that jive? Especially with the 1998 incident and the quick retirement forced on Sandusky. Paterno obviously knew about that as well. Do you think Paterno is stupid now and wouldn't put the two things together?

As for the wife: there are countless examples of children being molested in their own homes and the women being enablers (by denying what's happening). It's pretty common. And it also has nothing to do with what Paterno knew...that part is already clear from his own and MM's testimony.
Nov 9, 2011 10:25am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:29 AM
Anyone that post support for JoPa without reading the GJ report is on crack!
Nov 9, 2011 10:29am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:30 AM
Keep in mind, Paterno himself is retiring on his own after the season. That is not the school's final decision. They could still shit can him anytime.
Nov 9, 2011 10:30am
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Nov 9, 2011 10:58 AM
Travesty of multitudinal dimension if Paterno allowed to "retire" on his own terms.
Nov 9, 2011 10:58am
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Nov 9, 2011 12:18 PM
maybe he got out before they start trying to link the disappearnce of prosecutor Ray Gricar to this scandal?
Nov 9, 2011 12:18pm
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Nov 9, 2011 12:24 PM
Also want to tell me that after the alleged incidents and after Sandusky retired he and JoPa never hung out? Never sat in an office together, each others homes, lunch, coffee, etc...?
Nov 9, 2011 12:24pm
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Nov 9, 2011 12:35 PM
Fab1b;964876 wrote:Also want to tell me that after the alleged incidents and after Sandusky retired he and JoPa never hung out? Never sat in an office together, each others homes, lunch, coffee, etc...?
IDK, do you know that he did for sure?
Nov 9, 2011 12:35pm