
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 1, 2011 8:57am
Yea, for some reason it doesn't seem like he was ever in OSU's plans. It's refreshing to see a guy sticking to his guns.WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Dec 1, 2011 9:15am
he was the last player signed in his class as an 'athlete'.xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB

Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Dec 1, 2011 9:46am
Did you know AJ Hawk was a 3* recruit?wkfan;996155 wrote:he was the last player signed in his class as an 'athlete'.

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 1, 2011 9:48am
Malcom Jenkins,Bradley Roby was a 3 star recruit, etc etc.

Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Dec 1, 2011 9:58am
More shocking recruiting revelations!OneBuckeye;996224 wrote:Malcom Jenkins,Bradley Roby was a 3 star recruit, etc etc.
Just because Troy Smith was the last player taken in that OSU class, doesn't mean he wasn't a huge get. Kid was an elite 11 participant.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 10:22am
No, he was not. He was a 3-star athlete.xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB
Good for him. I'd love to play for a school that is 0-2 in BCS bowls and has zero chance of ever winning anything that anyone outside of South Bend cares about. That's what ND recruits, players who don't want to compete at a real school.WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
Posts: 1,054
Dec 1, 2011 10:25am
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=5249sleeper;996283 wrote:No, he was not. He was a 3-star athlete.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Troy-Smith-207;_ylt=AtGLDkmm6Nzu1hy7MUJ8paJDPZB4

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 10:27am
xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;996086 wrote:Troy Smith was a 4* QB
WebFire;996110 wrote:Actually I would say he is. He committed and he's sticking to it. That's what a commitment is, you know?
Those were changed after he won the Heisman so Rivals and Scout didn't get called up for underestimating a Heisman winner.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2011 10:33am
Midstate01;996003 wrote:That's fine, meyer wants kids to commit then talk to no one else. So can't blame this kid at all.
Is that part of Meyer's recruiting philosophy? Why would he be trying to talk to committed guys then?

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2011 10:34am
vball10set;996068 wrote:We'll see what happens on NSD. A lot of things can change between now and then, and if Meyer really wants a player, there's a pretty good chance he'll get him, regardless of what the player's saying now.
LOL
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 1, 2011 11:01am
I suspect we'll see all the 5 stars at OSU then, huh?karen lotz;996306 wrote:LOL

Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 1, 2011 11:04am
You can't even get that fact right? They're 0-3, dumbass.sleeper;996283 wrote:Good for him. I'd love to play for a school that is 0-2 in BCS bowls and has zero chance of ever winning anything that anyone outside of South Bend cares about. That's what ND recruits, players who don't want to compete at a real school.
Some kids like to go to schools that will not only allow them to play football, but will teach them. You're just upset you couldn't get into the Mendoza College and had to go to Fisher.

Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 1, 2011 11:07am
I guess you're right, other than than Notre Dame's ROI being far superior to Ohio State's. He's winning for life with that choice.rightfield;996047 wrote:Its his loss. Winning isn't as big a deal with some kids as with others. Thankfully most talented kids like to win championships.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 11:08am
I didn't even apply to Notre Dame. Fisher is a better school anyway, I don't care if Notre Dame paid more money to Forbes to have them ranked #1.Tobias Fünke;996365 wrote:You can't even get that fact right? They're 0-3, dumbass.
Some kids like to go to schools that will not only allow them to play football, but will teach them. You're just upset you couldn't get into the Mendoza College and had to go to Fisher.
0-3 is worse than 0-2, I don't see why that matters.

Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 1, 2011 11:12am
Well it matters because you never seem to get your facts straight.sleeper;996369 wrote:I didn't even apply to Notre Dame. Fisher is a better school anyway, I don't care if Notre Dame paid more money to Forbes to have them ranked #1.
0-3 is worse than 0-2, I don't see why that matters.
Notre Dame's ROI clearly indicates that it's a better college. Fisher is good, but it isn't elite. Sorta like Notre Dame and Ohio State in football, only reversed. Only winning in business sets you up for life, whereas the <1% of the guys who even make it to the NFL, 80% end up broke shortly after due to an unsustainable lifestyle. Smart guys make the better decisions for their life.
You didn't apply because you knew you couldn't get in.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 1, 2011 11:12am
You are always wrong, dumbass.sleeper;996296 wrote:Those were changed after he won the Heisman so Rivals and Scout didn't get called up for underestimating a Heisman winner.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 1, 2011 11:13am
Meyer got tons of 4* & 5* recruits at Florida. An amazingly high percentage of them were flops.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 11:14am
You don't go to Notre Dame. I don't care about Notre Dame's ROI and neither does anyone else.Tobias Fünke;996375 wrote:Well it matters because you never seem to get your facts straight.
Notre Dame's ROI clearly indicates that it's a better college. Fisher is good, but it isn't elite. Sorta like Notre Dame and Ohio State in football, only reversed. Only winning in business sets you up for life, whereas the <1% of the guys who even make it to the NFL, 80% end up broke shortly after due to an unsustainable lifestyle. Smart guys make the better decisions for their life.
You didn't apply because you knew you couldn't get in.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 11:15am
Exactly. At Ohio State, your recruiting ranking does not matter, you will be transformed into a perennial All-Star via our coaching staff and our academic/ethical philosophy.Speedofsand;996378 wrote:Meyer got tons of 4* & 5* recruits at Florida. An amazingly high percentage of them were flops.

Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 1, 2011 11:20am
You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.sleeper;996379 wrote:You don't go to Notre Dame. I don't care about Notre Dame's ROI and neither does anyone else.
While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe
Posts: 1,054
Dec 1, 2011 11:25am
Yes and those All stars have been lighting it up on the fieldsleeper;996380 wrote:Exactly. At Ohio State, your recruiting ranking does not matter, you will be transformed into a perennial All-Star via our coaching staff and our academic/ethical philosophy.

derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 1, 2011 11:31am
are you including in the ROI the fact that if they go to ND, they're less likely to get to the NFL than if they go to OSU? If you're a top tier athlete, I'd want to include that in any potential ROI calculation a school is throwing my way.Tobias Fünke;996385 wrote:You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.
While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.
Also, Fisher > Mendoza

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 11:41am
Cool. Notre Dame is now Duke, but with more arrogance. They don't recruit players that want to win, they recruit losers that want to be successful off the field. It's not the coach, you could bring in Vince Lombardi himself and Notre Dame still would never touch the top tier of college athletics. Enjoy!Tobias Fünke;996385 wrote:You may not, but clearly the prospects continue to take notice.
While I don't go to Notre Dame, I can truthfully say that they don't have my program. Being that it's a small school and all, they don't offer everything.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 1, 2011 11:42am
Fisher really is better than Mendoza. Notre Dame just throws more money at Forbes and US news, while Ohio State takes that money and invests it in better teachers and stronger infrastructure and technology.derek bomar;996398 wrote:are you including in the ROI the fact that if they go to ND, they're less likely to get to the NFL than if they go to OSU? If you're a top tier athlete, I'd want to include that in any potential ROI calculation a school is throwing my way.
Also, Fisher > Mendoza

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 1, 2011 11:45am
Here we go!derek bomar;996398 wrote:Also, Fisher > Mendoza