Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 19, 2011 10:42pm
You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?jordo212000;939256 wrote:Raiders made a ballsy move for sure. Definitely paid a premium. I wouldn't be as hard on them if they hadn't traded away picks previously, but the amount of picks they have is downright embarrassing. You have to build through the draft
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 19, 2011 10:46pm
The highest it can be is a 3rd rounder (essentially 4th rounder, since it is end of the round) right? Nnamdi I can see as a 3rd rounder. Gallery is like a 4th/5th and I wouldnt be surprised if Miller was 7th or nothing.Skyhook79;939338 wrote:You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 19, 2011 10:56pm
How many are first rounders?Skyhook79;939338 wrote:You do realize they have 3 fairly high compensation picks coming right?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 20, 2011 4:45am
Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.jordo212000;938373 wrote:I'd say if Palmer can get the offense down, he probably will play. They spent a ton on him, it would be stupid not to play him. It would be even dumber to let Kyle Boller play extended snaps for them. We know what he is and what his limitations are
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 20, 2011 7:20am
Manhattan Buckeye;939464 wrote:Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.
As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 20, 2011 8:03am
So are a lot of people. Raiders could have gotten Kyle Orton for much cheaper. You're logic is flawed.jordo212000;939487 wrote:As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Oct 20, 2011 8:15am
Still can't believe this gift feel in MB's lap. It will be interesting to see if it brings any extra spark to a team already on a roll. Who Dey!
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Oct 20, 2011 8:49am
(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.Commander of Awesome;939504 wrote:So are a lot of people. Raiders could have gotten Kyle Orton for much cheaper. You're logic is flawed.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 20, 2011 9:34am
well it was the trade deadline..Jawbreaker;939530 wrote:(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 20, 2011 9:36am
No his logic was that since Palmer is better than Boller it was a good trade. Try and keep up.Jawbreaker;939530 wrote:(Palmer > Boller) Seems like sound logic to me. What is illogical to me is trading within your division to make the team you are trading with better the week before you play them.
Also I guess you're referring to Kyle Orton. Considering that the Broncos have only won 1 game and tried to trade Orton before the season and then just benched him, it would be idiotic for them to let him rot on the bench when they could get something of value for a guy they don't want on their team. Broncos aren't in the playoff chase and Kyle Orton isn't exactly Rodgers.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 20, 2011 10:05am
Manhattan Buckeye;939464 wrote:Agreed, Boller's limitations revolve around his accuracy, or lack thereof, the guy can still throw the football. Palmer has looked like absolute crap the past couple of seasons throwing as many ducks as he has NFL-QB passes. If for some reason he magically turned back into an NFL QB while not practicing great for the Raiders.
Palmer wasn't great by anymeans his last 2 seasons in Cincy but he was far from "absolute crap" he completed 62% of his passes, had a 4000yd season last year and had 46 TD passes with 33 Int's the last 2 years combined hardly "absolute crap" stats.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Oct 20, 2011 10:18am
Commander of Awesome;939554 wrote:No his logic was that since Palmer is better than Boller it was a good trade. Try and keep up.
Also I guess you're referring to Kyle Orton. Considering that the Broncos have only won 1 game and tried to trade Orton before the season and then just benched him, it would be idiotic for them to let him rot on the bench when they could get something of value for a guy they don't want on their team. Broncos aren't in the playoff chase and Kyle Orton isn't exactly Rodgers.
You referred to this statement:
He is saying that Palmer > Orton which is a true statement.jordo212000;939487 wrote:As bad as Palmer had been, he was still better than Boller
You are also making the assumption the Raiders would want Orton and see value in him.
I am sorry if I can't keep up with your intellect.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 20, 2011 11:02am
No that's an opinion. One which I disagree with. I would take Orton over Palmer.Jawbreaker;939574 wrote: He is saying that Palmer > Orton which is a true statement.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 20, 2011 5:59pm
So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2011 6:41pm
Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Oct 23, 2011 6:53pm
Apparently the Raiders failed to watch Carson Palmer the last year or 2 in Cinci. Same ol Carson...throwing touchdowns to guys on the other team.
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Oct 23, 2011 7:39pm
I'm rooting for the Raiders to lose every game. It would be hilarious if their first round pick this year ends up being a top 10 pick.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 23, 2011 8:05pm
hey bgfalcons, what happened there? Come on here talking shit and the browns won and the raiders got blanked.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 23, 2011 8:34pm
That INT looked eerily familiar to a lot of his picks from last season. The Raiders should have used that to their benefit in the negotiations. The Bengals shed Palmer, Ocho, and TO and replace them with rookies and young guys and improve dramatically. On that pick 6, his arm strength looked like it had vanished. He probably needs to knock the rust off a little bit thoughlike_that;942814 wrote:Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 23, 2011 8:35pm
Perhaps. I admit I didn't watch all of Cincy's games the last couple of years, but I saw enough to know that Palmer is done as far as being a top NFL QB. I'm not sure he's even serviceable. Some of his INT's the last 2 years were mindblowing.jordo212000;939929 wrote:So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Oct 23, 2011 8:36pm
Picking up right where he left off. He has to be up there on the list of thrown pick 6's.like_that;942814 wrote:Carson Palmer already with a pick 6 lol.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 24, 2011 1:06am
My Favorite Carson moment was when his leg got hit and he acted like he was hurt. Carson is a p***y. He's afraid to get hit and wont stand in the pocket. He has happy feet which is killing his footwork and his arm is weak b/c he needs surgury but is afraid to get it done.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 24, 2011 1:54am
Palmer for MVP.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 24, 2011 12:07pm
He's just an example of a troll who sucks at what he does. He tries trolling Cincy fans, so he used the "now that Carson's out of there, his career will be rejuvenated and he'll kick ass" card. And then looks like an idiot (like usual) when Carson throws three picks in a game he didn't even start. Good job, Oakland, you traded a couple good picks to get Kyle Boller's older twin!!!jordo212000;939929 wrote:So is skyhook Carson Palmer's dad or something?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 24, 2011 12:54pm
That might mean something if it were not for the fact, that same raiders team kicked the Browns butt the week before.DeyDurkie5;942909 wrote:hey bgfalcons, what happened there? Come on here talking shit and the browns won and the raiders got blanked.