Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 18, 2011 11:50am
Oh really? In that case....great move by the Raiders!bases_loaded;937615 wrote:Carson Palmer threw 5 TD passes to beat me in the fantasy championship last year.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 18, 2011 11:50am
I think the Raiders can win the West, they couldn't with Boller...but have a real shot at it with Palmer.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Oct 18, 2011 11:51am
I didn't think Campbell's injury would help the Bengals so much.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 18, 2011 11:55am
The conditional pick looks to be second round at worst, according to Jay Glazer, who is a dumbass.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 18, 2011 12:07pm
@mortreport says its a 2nd rounder that turns into a first if the Raiders win a playoff gamets1227;937645 wrote:The conditional pick looks to be second round at worst, according to Jay Glazer, who is a dumbass.
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Gblock
Oct 18, 2011 12:14pm
considering other 1st round picks by the raiders(heyward-bey)this seems like a good deal for them
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 18, 2011 12:26pm
No faith in Terrelle Pryor?
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coach_bob1
Posts: 130
Oct 18, 2011 12:27pm
The Bengals just ripped off the only front office dumber than their own.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 18, 2011 12:28pm
I am willing to bet all my vcash that the raiders don't make the playoffs.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 18, 2011 12:32pm
like_that;937690 wrote:I am willing to bet all my vcash that the raiders don't make the playoffs.
I don't know, we all know Norv Turner will shit the bed at some point this year. The other 2 teams are just awful.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 18, 2011 12:35pm
Who actually had faith in him? I'd say he's 2-3 years out from doing anything significant in the NFL.lhslep134;937686 wrote:No faith in Terrelle Pryor?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 18, 2011 12:37pm
ts1227;937695 wrote:I don't know, we all know Norv Turner will shit the bed at some point this year. The other 2 teams are just awful.
I just don't see it. Carson hasn't done shit this offseason, and he didn't look good with the Bengals his last 2 seasons.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 18, 2011 12:39pm
Damn either way thats a great deal for the Bengals.Terry_Tate;937657 wrote:@mortreport says its a 2nd rounder that turns into a first if the Raiders win a playoff game
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 18, 2011 12:39pm
like_that;937697 wrote:I just don't see it. Carson hasn't done shit this offseason, and he didn't look good with the Bengals his last 2 seasons.
I'm not saying he gets them there singlehandedly. As long as he plays average and the Chargers have a Norv letdown, they basically make it by default.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 18, 2011 12:44pm
ts1227;937704 wrote:I'm not saying he gets them there singlehandedly. As long as he plays average and the Chargers have a Norv letdown, they basically make it by default.
That's a lot of ifs. He didn't even play average last season. Norv chokes in the playoffs not the regular season. He already avoided his trademark early season slow start.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 18, 2011 12:46pm
The raiders do know it is called a NEGOTIATION correct? They dont have to accept the first offer that the bengals put forth.
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coach_bob1
Posts: 130
Oct 18, 2011 12:56pm
The Bengals outsmarting the Raiders is like saying "I'm the skinniest kid at fat camp"
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 18, 2011 12:57pm
pick6 didAutomatik;937696 wrote:Who actually had faith in him? I'd say he's 2-3 years out from doing anything significant in the NFL.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 18, 2011 12:58pm
Then he's in the small minority. I think he could be a QB in the NFL if with the right coaches/team. Oakland isn't it.DeyDurkie5;937720 wrote:pick6 did
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 18, 2011 1:02pm
The Jay Cutler to the Bears trade was almost as bad as this one (two 1st rounders, a 3rd rounder, and Kyle Orton). Cutler and Palmer are basically the same player statistically (plus they're two guys who just totally lack that intangible "it" factor).
The only difference is Cutler was younger and hadn't been sitting out like a bitch for half of the season when he was brought in.
The only difference is Cutler was younger and hadn't been sitting out like a bitch for half of the season when he was brought in.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Oct 18, 2011 1:11pm
Haha Pick6 doesn't count. He thought Troy Smith should have been starting in the NFL.DeyDurkie5;937720 wrote:pick6 did
Auto yeah 2-3 years he should be a pretty decent #2 or 3 WR!
Only trade I can think of that is worse than this is the Herschel Walker trade. I don't think anything will ever top that.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Oct 18, 2011 1:20pm
Mulva;937725 wrote:The Jay Cutler to the Bears trade was almost as bad as this one (two 1st rounders, a 3rd rounder, and Kyle Orton). Cutler and Palmer are basically the same player statistically (plus they're two guys who just totally lack that intangible "it" factor).
The only difference is Cutler was younger and hadn't been sitting out like a bitch for half of the season when he was brought in.
Cutler is way better than palmer right now. He still has a strong arm and is fairly accurate. His problem is he has a line that absolutely sucks and other then forte not many weapons.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 18, 2011 1:23pm
Iliketurtles;937735 wrote:Haha Pick6 doesn't count. He thought Troy Smith should have been starting in the NFL.
Auto yeah 2-3 years he should be a pretty decent #2 or 3 WR!
Only trade I can think of that is worse than this is the Herschel Walker trade. I don't think anything will ever top that.
Ditka trading his draft for Ricky?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 18, 2011 1:29pm
Raiders definitely telling Terrelle he better start learning how to run the pass routes with this trade. I doubt they ever intended for him to be a QB at anytime.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 18, 2011 1:30pm
How do you what Palmer did in the offseason? Did you live in his basement?like_that;937697 wrote:I just don't see it. Carson hasn't done shit this offseason, and he didn't look good with the Bengals his last 2 seasons.