Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Feb 23, 2012 11:28pm
If the finish in the top 4 of the Big East, they'll get a double bye in the BET. That would be huge. They control their own destiny with a game at USF on Sunday.Azubuike24;1094360 wrote:UC has really turned it around since their struggles early. They are now playing to try to get off the 8/9 line. Win 2 of their final 3 and I think they can get to the 5-6 range if they don't get bounced on Wednesday of the BET.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 23, 2012 11:31pm
I guess if they go 2-1. However, G-Town could go 3-0. Now that I look at it, they own the tiebreaker over G-Town so good chance UC finishes top 4 if they go 2-1. G-Town has to go to Marquette.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 23, 2012 11:39pm
Colorado...only 1 loss at home this year, down 20 at half to Stanford???
Major choke job there...
Major choke job there...
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 23, 2012 11:44pm
Colorado is a joke ( as is the Pac 12 in general). They were shit in the Big 12. Essentially the same team, but are now a bubble team in the shitty pac 12. Ha.Azubuike24;1094367 wrote:Colorado...only 1 loss at home this year, down 20 at half to Stanford???
Major choke job there...
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 23, 2012 11:51pm
If conference tourny champs weren't given a bid, would the Pac 12 get a bid?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 12:08am
Mayyyyybe Cal...but they lost to everyone OOC they should have (UNLV, Missouri, SDSU), and had some bad losses in conference (Oregon State, Washington State).
They only have 2 wins over a top 50 RPI team, and that's Oregon twice lol not exactly great wins.
They only have 2 wins over a top 50 RPI team, and that's Oregon twice lol not exactly great wins.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Feb 24, 2012 12:17am
The MWC and the WCC are > than the Pac12.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 24, 2012 12:18am
Columbus City League > Pac 12Little Danny;1094384 wrote:The MWC and the WCC are > than the Pac12.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 24, 2012 12:55am
I think Cal and Washington both get in.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Feb 24, 2012 8:54am
They lost at home this year to Houston(sub .500). Yes, I realize it was their home arena, but still in Ark. Last nite was their 3rd home loss of season, as well as 2nd straight home loss. Thats tough at home? They are on the rise? Kinda like Georgia last year, who is sub .500 this year? Sorry, now ur starting to sound like B10 football fans.Azubuike24;1094353 wrote:Arkansas is pretty tough at home. Very similar to Missouri 2 years ago. Lots of young talent, playing without their best player. They are definitely on the rise next year and the year after.
SEC is not that good overall, period.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Feb 24, 2012 9:02am
SportsAndLady;1093362 wrote:KU going for 8 conf. titles in the last 8 seasons
To put that in a better perspective:
Duke has 8 titles in last 18 years
Duke has won 10 of the last 13 conference titles.
Bait set
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Feb 24, 2012 10:14am
Which is more impressive to me than what KU has done just for the simple fact Duke has to go against UNC in the ACC every year.georgemc80;1094499 wrote:Duke has won 10 of the last 13 conference titles.
Bait set
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 12:15pm
georgemc80;1094499 wrote:Duke has won 10 of the last 13 conference titles.
Bait set
The ACC determines it's conference champion based on the conf. tournament winner. Which is fine, but it's COMPLETELY different than a regular season champion. To win the conf. tourney, you have to win what? 4 games in a row? A regular season conference champion is sustained success over the course of 3 months. And Kansas has done that EIGHT years in a row. Think about that for a second. In a conference that is generally amongst the top 4 in the country, one team has won it 8 consecutive years. To me, that's more impressive than winning a conference tournament 10 of 13 years (which btw, is an incredible accomplishment).centralbucksfan;1094561 wrote:Which is more impressive to me than what KU has done just for the simple fact Duke has to go against UNC in the ACC every year.
Also, Duke and UNC rarely meet in the conference championship. So cbf when you say "for the simple fact Duke has to go against UNC in the ACC every year" that's completely false.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
Feb 24, 2012 12:24pm
They have actually met 4 times in the past years in the ACC Championship game and a couple other times in the Semis.SportsAndLady;1094658 wrote: Also, Duke and UNC rarely meet in the conference championship. So cbf when you say "for the simple fact Duke has to go against UNC in the ACC every year" that's completely false.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 12:26pm
Right but my point is it's not like they play UNC every year for the conference crown.birddog23;1094664 wrote:They have actually met 4 times in the past years in the ACC Championship game and a couple other times in the Semis.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 12:32pm
UNC and Duke have met just once (last season) in the ACC championship in the last 10 years.
So do you change your mind cbf?
So do you change your mind cbf?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Feb 24, 2012 1:35pm
No, because quite frankly, KU dominance is a combination of them being good, and no one else challenging them in the conference. Yes, its impressive. But they don't have anyone else in that conference who has been consistantly good to step up and challenge on any given year. Not taking anything away from Kansas, because they are Kansas. They are almost always going to be good. But you can't say that about anyone else in the conference consistantly. I would equate this to OSU in the 2000's in football. Yes, they were good. But UM was aweful, and there was no one else who consistantly would challenge them. Thus part of their dominance in the Big10. And please don't twist this any other way. Not taking anything away from KU. As its obvious they are and have been good.SportsAndLady;1094671 wrote:UNC and Duke have met just once (last season) in the ACC championship in the last 10 years.
So do you change your mind cbf?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 1:46pm
But your reasoning for thinking Duke's 10 of 13 is better than Kansas' 8 straight is because they've had to go against UNC every year in order to accomplish that. Which is COMPLETELY and 100% false.centralbucksfan;1094713 wrote:No, because quite frankly, KU dominance is a combination of them being good, and no one else challenging them in the conference. Yes, its impressive. But they don't have anyone else in that conference who has been consistantly good to step up and challenge on any given year. Not taking anything away from Kansas, because they are Kansas. They are almost always going to be good. But you can't say that about anyone else in the conference consistantly. I would equate this to OSU in the 2000's in football. Yes, they were good. But UM was aweful, and there was no one else who consistantly would challenge them. Thus part of their dominance in the Big10. And please don't twist this any other way. Not taking anything away from KU. As its obvious they are and have been good.
Only 3 times did they in fact beat UNC to win the conference crown. 1 time UNC beat them.
Florida State, Georgia Tech, Boston College, NC State....not exactly world beaters. Certainly lower programs than what Kansas has to go against the past 8 years THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE SEASON (not just a tournament at the end of the season).
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Feb 24, 2012 1:55pm
I agree with SportsandLady simply because winning a regular season conference championship is more difficult than winning a conference tournament championship. The road is longer and true road games are part of the equation.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Feb 24, 2012 1:57pm
I agree with SportsandLady simply because winning a regular season conference championship is more difficult than winning a conference tournament championship. The road is longer and true road games are part of the equation.
Regular season champions exhibit sustained excellence. Tournament champions show 4 day excellence.There is no comparison between the two.
Regular season champions exhibit sustained excellence. Tournament champions show 4 day excellence.There is no comparison between the two.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 24, 2012 2:00pm
Exactly. Not diminishing anything Duke has done in the conf. tourneys. It's an unreal feat to win 10 of 13 conference tournaments.Prescott;1094744 wrote:I agree with SportsandLady simply because winning a regular season conference championship is more difficult than winning a conference tournament championship. The road is longer and true road games are part of the equation.
But 8 straight regular season titles is a testament to the entire season (at least in the conference), not just a 4 day span in March.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Feb 24, 2012 9:04pm
Unspecified team rules violation for some Marquette players. Three starters sitting the first half.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 24, 2012 9:21pm
This is huge for WVU. They are sinking and need a win badly. Lose and they are looking at 8-10 in the league.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 24, 2012 10:43pm
Marquette down from double digits to lead in Morgantown.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 24, 2012 11:08pm
WVU fights back, Marquette misses some FT's (they were up 61-56) and now WVU can win down 1.
Bryant drives, air ball, Marquette wins 61-60. Going to be tough for WVU now.
Bryant drives, air ball, Marquette wins 61-60. Going to be tough for WVU now.