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Feb 1, 2012 10:29 PM
Southern Miss gets a big win over Memphis. An equally big loss for the Tigers.

Memphis hosts X Saturday in what could end up being a huge bubble game.
Feb 1, 2012 10:29pm
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Feb 1, 2012 10:44 PM
It's not a horrible loss for Memphis, considering they already beat USM. At worst, Memphis goes 12-4 in C-USA, may run the table.

Xavier is in trouble, but a win over Memphis would give them a strong case. They still have to go to Temple, UMass and St. Louis, which the way they are playing could easily be 3 losses. Even losing all of those, Xavier has strong wins over Vanderbilt, Cincinnati, Purdue and their 7 losses are conceivably all to NCAA Tournament teams.

Minnesota is definitely the biggest loser of the night. Please look at their OOC wins and tell me where there is anything of merit. Fairfield and Indiana State projected to be good, but both teams have disappointed. The same with DePaul, USC, Virginia Tech and Dayton...all have been awful in league play. Their best win is Bucknell and then a single road win at Indiana, who still may not even go .500 in the B1G. Minnesota has almost zero chance unless they somehow win some games they will be at-least 6-8 point favorites in.
Feb 1, 2012 10:44pm
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Feb 1, 2012 10:56 PM
Major recruiting news. #1 player from 2013 class has re-classified to 2012. This is the equivalent of Andre Drummond moving from 2012 to 2011. Noel is now available for next season.

His destination? Likely Kentucky or Syracuse. Calipari has said he expects to lose Teague, Jones, Kidd-Gilchrist, Davis, Lamb, Vargas and Miller.

He is still targetting Shabazz Muhammad, Anthony Bennett and now, Nerlens Noel (all top 8 players). Is it possible he gets all 3? All might be contingent on players league, but if those 7 leave, I could actually see all 3 coming to UK, combined with Ryan Harrow, Kyle Wiltjer and Jon Hood returning from injury...my...oh...my. Still TONS of recruiting left...
Feb 1, 2012 10:56pm
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Feb 1, 2012 11:02 PM
Pretty good game between A&M and Baylor.

A&M got a great post bucket and then Baylor gets a big time 3. 9 seconds left, A&M ball down 1.
Feb 1, 2012 11:02pm
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Feb 2, 2012 12:04 AM
Azubuike24;1072864 wrote:It's not a horrible loss for Memphis, considering they already beat USM. At worst, Memphis goes 12-4 in C-USA, may run the table
They're 15-7, and their best wins are Belmont, Miami, and Southern Miss. Tonight makes them 1-6 against the RPI top 50. They're in big time trouble if they lose to X. Even running the table the rest of the way in conference doesn't do very much for them, since 6 of those teams are >100 RPI as of now.
Feb 2, 2012 12:04am
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Feb 2, 2012 12:07 AM
Midstate01;1072694 wrote:Yea just asking because If he failed the quarter, he'd be ineligible for the entire next quarter right?? So it couldn't have been that.

I just know that it was an academic issue. Not sure of the specifics.
Feb 2, 2012 12:07am
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Feb 2, 2012 12:08 AM
wildcats20;1072717 wrote:Boeheim talked to the professor and boom, he's eligible.

LOL
Feb 2, 2012 12:08am
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Feb 2, 2012 12:20 AM
I would be very nice to see Nerlens Noel at UK. Just saw what you posted a little bit ago but on other sites with vids. That dude looks amazing, kinda like like an A Davis. If UK gets him, Bennett and Shabazz (among others). Wow! I wouldnt be surprised to see Lamb and Teague come back. I just wonder how many years we'll see these type of classes before Cal bolts.
Feb 2, 2012 12:20am
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Feb 2, 2012 8:55 AM
cats gone wild;1072972 wrote:I would be very nice to see Nerlens Noel at UK. Just saw what you posted a little bit ago but on other sites with vids. That dude looks amazing, kinda like like an A Davis. If UK gets him, Bennett and Shabazz (among others). Wow! I wouldnt be surprised to see Lamb and Teague come back. I just wonder how many years we'll see these type of classes before Cal bolts.
Right around the time all of the violations get out to the news and they have to vacate everything they accomplished.
Feb 2, 2012 8:55am
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Feb 2, 2012 9:42 AM
Coach Cal has fewer major recruiting violations than Roy Williams.
Feb 2, 2012 9:42am
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Feb 2, 2012 10:42 AM
I'm not going to sit here and say that I'd put my life on the line about nothing ever coming out about Cal/UK. Nothing in life is a guarantee.

However...there isn't a school or a coach who is watched more closely. There isn't a school or a coach who opposing coaches/administrators/boosters wouldn't want to take down. There isn't a school or a coach who had more hidden agendas against them in the media. This isn't to start a pity party. Far from it. However, I don't think people realize how much UK spends and does to be proactive to make sure nothing is going to get past them. Their compliance department is probably the best in the country. They get more complaints/questions in a day than I'd bet many get in a month. Knowing what happened with Cal before, whether you want to implicate him, his players, the school(s) he was at, the administration, whatever...it was a risk to take that one. It's just strange that nobody really even considers everything they did (and are doing) to combat it.
Feb 2, 2012 10:42am
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Feb 2, 2012 12:51 PM
GOONx19;1073156 wrote:Coach Cal has fewer major recruiting violations than Roy Williams.
How about violations by players under his watchful eye?
Feb 2, 2012 12:51pm
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Feb 2, 2012 12:54 PM
Azubuike24;1073208 wrote:I'm not going to sit here and say that I'd put my life on the line about nothing ever coming out about Cal/UK. Nothing in life is a guarantee.

However...there isn't a school or a coach who is watched more closely. There isn't a school or a coach who opposing coaches/administrators/boosters wouldn't want to take down. There isn't a school or a coach who had more hidden agendas against them in the media. This isn't to start a pity party. Far from it. However, I don't think people realize how much UK spends and does to be proactive to make sure nothing is going to get past them. Their compliance department is probably the best in the country. They get more complaints/questions in a day than I'd bet many get in a month. Knowing what happened with Cal before, whether you want to implicate him, his players, the school(s) he was at, the administration, whatever...it was a risk to take that one. It's just strange that nobody really even considers everything they did (and are doing) to combat it.
^^Didnt OSU supposedly have one of the best compliance departments in the country as well?
Feb 2, 2012 12:54pm
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Feb 2, 2012 2:16 PM
Not sure about OSU. I'm just talking about UK basketball. Maybe not everything else. Basically, what I'm saying is if something were to happen, it would be bigger than just Calipari and whatever nonsense people like to say he's guilty of. There would be a TON of heads that would roll. It would go about as deep as something like that could go because of how much scrutiny the program is under from just about every outsider.

I guess what I'm addressing here is the nonsense about WWW sending players for pay straight to Cal. Or Cal fixing grades/test scores. You know, the typical stuff people tend to say. I just can't see that happening with all the eyes that are watching. Cal has even mentioned it, albeit subtly in the media, about other coaches (both in the SEC and outside of it) using negative recruiting against him. Also, he's hinted about people wanted to take him down a notch or two. He's basically said that he has a feeling who they are, and that he's not going to do that. He's also not going to make promises to get players. Basically, let his on-court and professional success speak for itself and let the kids/families decide what route they want to go. Thus far, I don't think he's sold ANY recruit under him at UK any BS. This just isn't true at other schools. Just look at a few of the McDonald's All-Americans this year who already bailed on their teams early.
Feb 2, 2012 2:16pm
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Feb 2, 2012 3:35 PM
Azubuike24;1073444 wrote: Basically, let his on-court and professional success speak for itself and let the kids/families decide what route they want to go..
For a coach who has had more talent than any coach over the past 10yrs, and has yet to win a title with that talent, I personally am not overlly impressed. Ya, he can recruit. Especially now that he is at UK. On top of that, the SEC has been shit in basketball. So winning the SEC isnt' exactly a big feather in the cap.
I wonder at what point that Cal starts to catch some flack for not winning a national title with all the talent he has had?

As for cheating, who knows. Maybe, maybe not. At UK, he probably doesn't have to do it as much has he may have at Memphis or UMass. As someone else stated though, where there is a will, there is a way. I don't buy much into a colleges compliance department. For them to be effective, the coaches have to do their jobs as far as following the rules. SO saying UK spends this much, and is the best in this area, doesn't mean crap IMO.
Feb 2, 2012 3:35pm
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Feb 2, 2012 6:46 PM
Not impressed with a guy who can take a brand new roster and have them the best defensive team in the country? Not impressed with a guy who took a team of 6 players (one of which was Josh Harrellson, who before the season wasn't worthy of a scholarship) and went to a Final Four?

Calipari underachieved with Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Patterson, etc...in his first year. Last year was without a doubt a fine coaching job. We'll see about this year. I'll venture to say that after this year, his 3-year span will surpass someone like Thad Matta's best 3-year run...
Feb 2, 2012 6:46pm
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Feb 2, 2012 7:02 PM
Azubuike24;1073692 wrote:Not impressed with a guy who can take a brand new roster and have them the best defensive team in the country? Not impressed with a guy who took a team of 6 players (one of which was Josh Harrellson, who before the season wasn't worthy of a scholarship) and went to a Final Four?

Calipari underachieved with Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Patterson, etc...in his first year. Last year was without a doubt a fine coaching job. We'll see about this year. I'll venture to say that after this year, his 3-year span will surpass someone like Thad Matta's best 3-year run...
So now a final four is good enough at UK? Thought I heard you say one time that nothing short of a title would do at UK? Funny how we change on time moves on...
And no, not impressed. As I said, over the past 10yrs, has easily had the most talent of any coach in america. Get it done. This year? We'll see. I have my doubts having watched them a handful of times.
Feb 2, 2012 7:02pm
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Feb 2, 2012 7:26 PM
Of course it isn't. However, to say last year was NOT a coaching job that gives some credence to his coaching ability is being naive.

In any given year, short of a national title isn't good enough. It wasn't good enough in 2010. It's not good enough in 2012. For last year though, I'd say it was a plus-side season for Cal in-terms of showing his skills.
Feb 2, 2012 7:26pm
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Feb 2, 2012 8:52 PM
Big game tonight in Provo. Gonzaga at BYU.

Murray State down 6 at half to Southeast Missouri.
Feb 2, 2012 8:52pm
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Feb 2, 2012 9:01 PM
Azubuike24;1073809 wrote:Big game tonight in Provo. Gonzaga at BYU.

Murray State down 6 at half to Southeast Missouri.
They've had close games at halftime and absolutely blew out the other team in the second half. Wouldn't be shocked to see the same.

I was trying to find the game streaming online somewhere and I can't.
Feb 2, 2012 9:01pm
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Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM
The Southeast Missouri State Compromises (I have no clue what their nickname is, so we'll just use the only Missouri reference I remember from my junior high school history book) hanging in there on the road at Murray State, leading 46 to 40 with about 15 minutes to play.

This is shaping up to be a fantastic finish.
Feb 2, 2012 9:19pm
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Feb 2, 2012 9:20 PM
Big three ball for Murray State. SMS needs to gather its composure, and quickly. Things could get out of hand in a hurry.
Feb 2, 2012 9:20pm
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Feb 2, 2012 9:21 PM
Isaiah Canaan just ripped 2 sick threes. Murray has tied it.
Feb 2, 2012 9:21pm