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Oct 11, 2011 8:52 PM
My dads construction company done jobs throughout Michigan, Ohio, Tennesse, and Kentucky. Our workers were paid to drive to the job site on Sunday evening, and they were paid to drive home after the work week on Friday evening or Saturday morning. It's very common practice, as proven time and time again. If the job was close enough, they were paid daily for the commute.
Oct 11, 2011 8:52pm
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Oct 11, 2011 8:56 PM
What about driving 2.5 hours each way to work at a car wash?
Oct 11, 2011 8:56pm
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Oct 11, 2011 8:58 PM
karen lotz;930650 wrote:What about driving 2.5 hours each way to work at a car wash?
this one?

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Oct 11, 2011 8:58pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:04 PM
LJ;930628 wrote:What you think is reality and what is actually reality don't always match up. My cousins, who are union plumbers, drive to different cities in state and out of state all the time, and yes commuting, and yes getting paid for the commute.
Key word, plumbers.
LJ;930635 wrote:Another example, my buddy a (non-union) concrete worker was paid for his commute to Toledo and back 6 days a week for 4 weeks straight. A lot of that was paid out in OT.
Key word, concrete worker.

Maybe I'm naive, but I find it hard to believe Posey was doing either of those. And no company being fiscally smart is going to have this type of arrangement. It's laughable that people think this was a perfectly normal work arrangement.
Oct 11, 2011 9:04pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:06 PM
thedynasty1998;930661 wrote:Key word, plumbers.



Key word, concrete worker.

Maybe I'm naive, but I find it hard to believe Posey was doing either of those. And no company being fiscally smart is going to have this type of arrangement. It's laughable that people think this was a perfectly normal work arrangement.
Im a construction worker. All that was really required was that you do physical labor. I didnt have to be specialized in anything to get hired. Why dont you quote my post?
Oct 11, 2011 9:06pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:07 PM
thedynasty1998;930661 wrote:Key word, plumbers.



Key word, concrete worker.

Maybe I'm naive, but I find it hard to believe Posey was doing either of those. And no company being fiscally smart is going to have this type of arrangement. It's laughable that people think this was a perfectly normal work arrangement.
Key word, excavating company. My buddy who is a concrete worker is nothing more than an expendable grunt. He wouldn't be any more of a skilled worker than Posey.
Oct 11, 2011 9:07pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:10 PM
dynasty, you are getting owned by people who can actually relate to that type of work. Give it up.
Oct 11, 2011 9:10pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:12 PM
LJ;930669 wrote:Key word, excavating company. My buddy who is a concrete worker is nothing more than an expendable grunt. He wouldn't be any more of a skilled worker than Posey.
And he's doing it for a living. It's his career.

You honestly think everything was on the up-and-up? In other words, would an average student be given the same employment opportunity?
Oct 11, 2011 9:12pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:15 PM
thedynasty1998;930674 wrote:And he's doing it for a living. It's his career.

You honestly think everything was on the up-and-up? In other words, would an average student be given the same employment opportunity?
dude are you fucking for real?? Read my posts. Im an average student. Im a junior at The University of Akron. I am not a student athlete. I work construction 3 months out of the year. I am welcome to come back every summer as well.
Oct 11, 2011 9:15pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:16 PM
thedynasty1998;930674 wrote:And he's doing it for a living. It's his career.
No it's not. He was a college student at the time. He actually does graphic design now.
You honestly think everything was on the up-and-up?
No, because he was getting paid for hours that he wasn't even commuting. That isn't what we are talking about. You just don't understand getting paid for commuting.
In other words, would an average student be given the same employment opportunity?
That isn't the issue we are discussing. You don't believe that grunts get paid for commuting. The reality is, they do.
Oct 11, 2011 9:16pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:17 PM
Pick6;930678 wrote:dude are you ****ing for real?? Read my posts. Im an average student. Im a junior at The University of Akron. I am not a student athlete. I work construction 3 months out of the year. I am welcome to come back every summer as well.
I understand that. But we are talking about Devier Posey. You think he's doing the same work you are?
Oct 11, 2011 9:17pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:19 PM
thedynasty1998;930684 wrote:I understand that. But we are talking about Devier Posey. You think he's doing the same work you are?
That isn't the issue we are discussing.
Oct 11, 2011 9:19pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:19 PM
LJ;930682 wrote:No it's not. He was a college student at the time. He actually does graphic design now.

No, because he was getting paid for hours that he wasn't even commuting. That isn't what we are talking about. You just don't understand getting paid for commuting. That isn't the issue we are discussing. You don't believe that grunts get paid for commuting. The reality is, they do.
No that's not it. I understand people can get paid for their commute. I'm not arguing that.

I'm saying the fact that that is Posey's defense in his pay is shady.
Oct 11, 2011 9:19pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:21 PM
thedynasty1998;930691 wrote:No that's not it. I understand people can get paid for their commute. I'm not arguing that.

I'm saying the fact that that is Posey's defense in his pay is shady.
But it's not. The fact that they can't even account for 5 hours at all at this point is shady. Even then, call centers even pay bonuses, so that isn't even as shady as even I think it is.
Oct 11, 2011 9:21pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:22 PM
LJ;930690 wrote:That isn't the issue we are discussing.
I've mentioned Posey specifically in almost every post. I'm not sure why you would have thought otherwise.
Oct 11, 2011 9:22pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:22 PM
thedynasty1998;930695 wrote:I've mentioned Posey specifically in almost every post. I'm not sure why you would have thought otherwise.
:facepalm:

You don't believe people get paid for commuting, not getting paid for the actual work they do at work.
Oct 11, 2011 9:22pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:25 PM
LJ;930698 wrote::facepalm:

You don't believe people get paid for commuting, not getting paid for the actual work they do at work.
I don't know if that's a double negative or just doesn't make any sense.

I am talking about Posey. I don't give a crap about Joe the Plumber. This thread is about Posey being suspended in the college football forum. Why would I want to discuss union contracts? Keep up.
Oct 11, 2011 9:25pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:27 PM
thedynasty1998;930702 wrote:I don't know if that's a double negative or just doesn't make any sense.

I am talking about Posey. I don't give a crap about Joe the Plumber. This thread is about Posey being suspended in the college football forum. Why would I want to discuss union contracts? Keep up.
:facepalm:

He was working for an excavating company, excavating companies have to follow union contracts depending on the job they are doing, so typically, they will follow those pay rules year round.

Try to keep up.
Oct 11, 2011 9:27pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:30 PM
LJ;930704 wrote::facepalm:

He was working for an excavating company, excavating companies have to follow union contracts depending on the job they are doing, so typically, they will follow those pay rules year round.

Try to keep up.
So he joined the union? He paid his union fees? All for what, 30 hours of work. That makes sense. Good argument.

If not, I'm sure the union steward was okay with it...
Oct 11, 2011 9:30pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:31 PM
thedynasty1998;930708 wrote:So he joined the union? He paid his union fees? All for what, 30 hours of work. That makes sense. Good argument.

If not, I'm sure the union steward was okay with it...
God damn, did your brain just leave planet earth?
Oct 11, 2011 9:31pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:33 PM
LJ;930709 wrote:God damn, did your brain just leave planet earth?
Good response.

So did he join the union or not?

If yes, that doesn't make sense for 2 weeks of work.

If no, he wouldn't be paid as a union employee.
Oct 11, 2011 9:33pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:34 PM
thedynasty1998;930708 wrote:So he joined the union? He paid his union fees? All for what, 30 hours of work. That makes sense. Good argument.

If not, I'm sure the union steward was okay with it...
you are clueless.
Oct 11, 2011 9:34pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:35 PM
thedynasty1998;930713 wrote:Good response.

So did he join the union or not?

If yes, that doesn't make sense for 2 weeks of work.

If no, he wouldn't be paid as a union employee.
I am not a member of the union but work for a union company. I get paid the exact same amount as the union workers in my company. However, instead of getting it in benefits, I get it in cash. So I make $36/hr...while union members make $25/26 an hour. SMFH. And my union fees still get paid because I do work in multiple districts in the state and even in WV.
Oct 11, 2011 9:35pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:35 PM
thedynasty1998;930713 wrote:Good response.

So did he join the union or not?

If yes, that doesn't make sense for 2 weeks of work.

If no, he wouldn't be paid as a union employee.
Where did I say they had to unionize? You are really clueless here. To get commercial contracts, companies will sometimes have to pay the same as the unionized companies do. Sometimes they will have to offer some of the benefits that the unionized companies do. A lot of times, larger companies will just follow many of these guidelines year round in order to stay competitive when bidding.
Oct 11, 2011 9:35pm
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Oct 11, 2011 9:37 PM
Waiting for a response along the lines of "well why do they drive Fords?!"
Oct 11, 2011 9:37pm