Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 6, 2011 11:51am
2kool4skool;922969 wrote:lol at the SEC taking the B1G's sloppy seconds.
I bet the SEC is so jealous of the B1G and all their recent success.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Oct 6, 2011 1:18pm
Doesn't look like the SEC will accept Missou: http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/32536267
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 6, 2011 1:46pm
Mizzou handled this whole thing really really badly.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 6, 2011 2:20pm
Mizzou is holding out for what they truly want. Surprised the SEC hasn't told Vanderbilt to fuck off.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 6, 2011 2:21pm
No doubt. What a bunch of fucktards.karen lotz;923775 wrote:Mizzou handled this whole thing really really badly.
I understand why Missouri might be attractive with the TV markets, but where in the fuck did they get this notion that they could just jet off to whatever conference they want? I mean, they looked like asses last year in the Bee One Gee expansion, so you would think they'd have learned.
I normally wouldn't care either way, but in the last few days I really hoped it was a bunch of bullshit simply because of the way Missouri presented itself.
Sidenote, wonder why Auburn would be so willing to jump from the West to the East division (ha ha)?
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Oct 6, 2011 3:05pm
missouri looks awful in this whole ordeal. i think they eventually get in because of the allure of the stl and kc tv markets (and wvu's lack thereof) but they are not making it easy on themselves.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 6, 2011 9:35pm
Why would the SEC do that? Best city in the conference and great non-football sports (plus academics).dlazz;923815 wrote:Mizzou is holding out for what they truly want. Surprised the SEC hasn't told Vanderbilt to **** off.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 9:42pm
Jordo will tell you it's ONLY about football..Vandy should be gone!!!Manhattan Buckeye;924309 wrote:Why would the SEC do that? Best city in the conference and great non-football sports (plus academics).
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 6, 2011 9:43pm
I don't see any conference telling any of their members to leave.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 7, 2011 7:17am
karen lotz;924327 wrote:I don't see any conference telling any of their members to leave.
Exactly. I've never said anything about a conference kicking another school out. However with expansion it is almost exclusively about football
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 7, 2011 8:33am
Vandy runs a legit program, which is why they don't belong in the SEC. And also explains why they are terrible at football.jordo212000;924733 wrote:Exactly. I've never said anything about a conference kicking another school out. However with expansion it is almost exclusively about football
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Oct 7, 2011 11:28am
$6,000,000,000.Rotinaj;923618 wrote:I bet the SEC is so jealous of the B1G and all their recent success.
That is the amount of money that is divided amongst the members of the CIC for research ANNUALLY, a figure that will only increase if schools are added to the Big Ten. If this academic thing weren't as important as some say to expansion there'd be no reason for the Pac 12 or SEC to even attempt to come up with their own organizations like this, which is what they're currently trying to do.
There is no University out there that, if having to decide between the SEC and the Big Ten, would ever willingly choose the SEC and cite 'money' as the reason. No amount negotiated in a football contract can match the total package that the Big Ten offers. This is why the conference is so influential even without any on-the-field success.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 7, 2011 3:02pm
dtdtim;924938 wrote:$6,000,000,000.
That is the amount of money that is divided amongst the members of the CIC for research ANNUALLY, a figure that will only increase if schools are added to the Big Ten. If this academic thing weren't as important as some say to expansion there'd be no reason for the Pac 12 or SEC to even attempt to come up with their own organizations like this, which is what they're currently trying to do.
There is no University out there that, if having to decide between the SEC and the Big Ten, would ever willingly choose the SEC and cite 'money' as the reason. No amount negotiated in a football contract can match the total package that the Big Ten offers. This is why the conference is so influential even without any on-the-field success.
Just because a bunch of CIC members play football against one another isn't going to change any split in any funds. Also, the funds for the two (athletics and research) are independent of one another, it's not like they sink research funds into basketball or ticket sales into research.
Some schools are research schools, some are football schools, some are both. How said research schools align to play football is largely irrelevant, and even the three old conferences that pretend to give a shit (B1G, Pac-12, ACC) only marginally care. It may sound cool to say it means you have smart athletes, but all of that research money is locked up in grad students.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 9, 2011 7:03pm
Boise State, Air Force, and Navy to the Big East for football only?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 9, 2011 8:47pm
Where u hearin that karen? Im out for the night.and.can't check with my big east peoples about this
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 9, 2011 9:08pm
Saw it on Twitter a while ago. I don't remember who it was, it was a retweet of some CBS writer I think?
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 9, 2011 9:10pm
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Oct 9, 2011 9:21pm
karen lotz;928218 wrote:Saw it on Twitter a while ago. I don't remember who it was, it was a retweet of some CBS writer I think?
Feldman retweeted it.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 9, 2011 9:24pm
Fuck ESPN
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/sports/ncaafootball/conference-instability-is-filtering-down-to-the-next-level.html?_r=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nyt%2Frss%2FSports+%28NYT+%3E+Sports%29&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimessports
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/sports/ncaafootball/conference-instability-is-filtering-down-to-the-next-level.html?_r=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nyt%2Frss%2FSports+%28NYT+%3E+Sports%29&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimessports
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST An article in The Boston Globe on Sunday became the talk of college athletics, as it reported just how brazen and blatant Boston College’s blocking of Connecticut’s move to the Atlantic Coast Conference was.
“We didn’t want them in,” Boston College’s athletic director, Gene DeFilippo, told The Globe. “It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.”
The most stunning comment in the article was DeFilippo’s public admission that ESPN guided the A.C.C.’s decision to add Syracuse and Pittsburgh last month.
“We always keep our television partners close to us,” DeFilippo told The Globe. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV — ESPN — is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.”
DeFilippo’s comments give credence to the popular theory that ESPN encouraged Pittsburgh and Syracuse’s exit from the Big East in the wake of the Big East’s turning down ESPN’s billion-dollar television deal in May during an exclusive negotiating window. ESPN has a billion-dollar deal with the A.C.C., making that move either savvy business or collusion, depending on one’s perspective.
“We’ve got a great partnership and a great working relationship with ESPN,” an A.C.C. spokesperson said. “But they have never and will never dictate to us, especially in regards to expansion.”
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Oct 9, 2011 9:26pm
I give Delaney credit..
He hasn't panicked and made an irrational move. 5 years ago, everyone wanted Rutgers in this conference. That wouldn've been awful, not to mention the NY market is shitty for CFB.
He hasn't panicked and made an irrational move. 5 years ago, everyone wanted Rutgers in this conference. That wouldn've been awful, not to mention the NY market is shitty for CFB.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Oct 10, 2011 10:09pm
UCF could be getting a Big East invite very soon. I also would not be surprised to see Temple getting one as well. UCF-USF would be a pretty strong rivalry for the conference.
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2011/10/big_east_ready_1.html
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2011/10/big_east_ready_1.html
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 10, 2011 10:12pm
If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.
Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.
Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Oct 10, 2011 10:22pm
Manhattan Buckeye;929592 wrote:If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.
Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.
They're working on it...... fingers crossed here.
That being said, UCF and Temple have been better the past five years than Syracuse. They also have a better up side.
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skiisme753
Posts: 97
Oct 11, 2011 8:05pm
UCF and Temple wouldn't surprise me. What does everyone think about Temple though....sure they would fit, but think about basketball....would they rather stay in the A10 and have a better shot at the NCAA tournament?
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skiisme753
Posts: 97
Oct 11, 2011 8:06pm
It should of lost is BCS status when Miami left.....lolManhattan Buckeye;929592 wrote:If the BE expands with the likes of UCF and Temple, it needs to lose it's BCS status.
Cincinnati and L'ville should be buttering up the remaining Big 12 right now.