ytownfootball;868450 wrote:Yeah, seriously, Persa was awesome before the injury. I'm too lazy but check his stats, more importantly what he meant to that team.

SportsAndLady;868527 wrote:I don't understand why that needed a "you serious clark?" response...There usually is a Heisman invite that was on no ones radar before the season started.

Jordo probably said the same thing to someone last year who said Cam Newton.

jordo212000;868540 wrote:Cam Newton didn't play for Northwestern

SportsAndLady;868545 wrote:Yeah because Auburn had been soooo good before 2010

SportsAndLady;868545 wrote:Yeah because Auburn had been soooo good before 2010

karen lotz;867499 wrote:Denard Robinson until Michigan starts playing defenses that hit hard.

WebFire;868570 wrote:Which won't be until B1G play starts.

dave;868564 wrote:What? Auburn has been one of the best programs in the country since Pat Dye and Bo Jackson.

You can't possibly put them in the same sentence with Northwestern.

dave;868564 wrote:What? Auburn has been one of the best programs in the country since Pat Dye and Bo Jackson.

You can't possibly put them in the same sentence with Northwestern.

karen lotz;868571 wrote:No comment.

jordo212000;868567 wrote:Huh? Auburn was undefeated as recently as 2004. Plus Newton was a big-time recruit. He was a highly sought after before last season.

jordo212000;868587 wrote:I'm still in shock that S&L had no clue about the history of Auburn. I mean heck they have even been great recently. 2 undefeated seasons over the past 10 years is nothing to sneeze at.

Persa can't / won't win the Heisman simply because he plays at Northwestern. The award almost exclusively goes to the best player on the best team. There arent a lot of guys from 7-5 teams standing up on the podium

SportsAndLady;868588 wrote:I'm talking about 8-5, 5-7, and 9-4 the last 3 seasons..it's not like they've been mid 2000s Auburn is what I meant.

jordo212000;868593 wrote:2 undefeated seasons in the past 10 years. Ohio State hasn't even done that. Nobody can win every year, down years happen. To say that Auburn has been anything less than good recently is kind of asinine. Did you forget about 2004 or something?

SportsAndLady;868592 wrote:Yeah I have no clue about the history of Auburn :rolleyes:

Wasn't Tebow on an 8-5 team?

jordo212000;868599 wrote:Notice I didn't say that it never happens. How much would you like to bet that Persa is nowhere close to New York come Heisman time next year? Nobody from a middling Northwestern school is ever going to get an invite. Persa is going to have to go undefeated next year to be in the running. Perennial powers play by different rules when it comes to this sort of thing.

jordo212000;868590 wrote:Can't forget about the murderer's row of good defenses in the Big 10. We've got Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois and Purdue! Those teams would scare anybody

sleeper;868605 wrote:Could be like the SEC, we've got Miss St, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Vanderbilt. Real powerhouses there.

jordo212000;868608 wrote:????

South Carolina had a strong defense last year and won their division of the SEC? haha Might want to research a little before you speak up next time.

and Miss St beat the bejesus out of Michigan in the bowl game

sleeper;868615 wrote:Exactly. You know the SEC is bad when South Carolina wins a division LOL. A freaking division!

And who hasn't beaten the bejesus out of Michigan the last couple years?

The point still stands, every conference has their Purdue, Indiana, and Illinois' of the world, but only 1 has 4 of the top 7 all time winningest programs.

jordo212000;868619 wrote:Teams in the Big 10 have been playing football much longer than many other schools / conferences. Naturally they are going to have more wins than the next guys