NCAA having a 2nd investigation on OSU?

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Aug 12, 2011 2:06 PM
And we gave up our sugar bowl $$$ which was around 380,000.
Aug 12, 2011 2:06pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:07 PM
bases_loaded;860126 wrote:Its definitively a lie, which is what you asked....so whats your point?

What's a lie?
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Aug 12, 2011 2:08 PM
stroups;860135 wrote:And we gave up our sugar bowl $$$ which was around 380,000.

I heard we also gave up our share of the money that the Big Ten received from bowl games involving it's members
Aug 12, 2011 2:08pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:09 PM
stroups;860129 wrote:Who is Dorian Bell and that is really a non issue at this point.


PDBuckeyes Doug Lesmerises
So new allegation is additional player involved with tattoos. Already covered. Investigation still going, always chance more could be found.
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Is this why Bell left the team?
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Had been previously suspended for year for other issues. that was bigger deal.
Aug 12, 2011 2:09pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:12 PM
Fickell also gets to make it back in time for practice today which is the first one in full pads.
Aug 12, 2011 2:12pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:12 PM
WebFire;860116 wrote:The end result being correct sure is a lot better than having wrong date!
So you think its ok that he came to the right conclusion by using the wrong information, and he published a national article based on this?
Aug 12, 2011 2:12pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:29 PM
http://www.toledoblade.com/Ohio-State/2011/08/12/OSU-NCAA-meet-Tressel-apologizes.html
INDIANAPOLIS — Ohio State's day in court has ended. Now it must wait for a month or two to find out the verdict.

A memorabilia-for-cash scandal that led to player suspensions, coach Jim Tressel's forced resignation and the departure of star quarterback Terrelle Pryor led ultimately to Ohio State's hearing before the NCAA's committee on infractions on Friday.

Ohio State and NCAA officials, along with Tressel, were accompanied by a cadre of lawyers. They entered a downtown hotel's security-guarded ballroom at 8:30 a.m. Except for a short mid-morning break, they continued for four hours before the meeting ended.

Athletic director Gene Smith disclosed that Ohio State, in addition to other penalties it has self-imposed, will forfeit $338,000 as its share of the Big Ten's payment for having played in the 2011 Sugar Bowl.

Tressel declined to answer questions as he hustled with his attorney through the hotel's lobby and jumped on an elevator.

He did leave behind a release.

"I had an open and constructive exchange with the committee on infractions," the statement read. "They were well prepared and will now go about their work in deliberations. Again, I would like to apologize to the Buckeye nation, most especially to the players, staff and fans who remain so dear to me."

Now Ohio State must wait 6 to 8 weeks to find out its penalties.
Aug 12, 2011 2:29pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:31 PM
Also, the dates are very important. If that letter was sent on July 13th, the new allegation could've been investigated and over with by the time "OSU received the letter last week". There's a big difference in continuing to investigate 3 weeks ago, and continuing to investigate as of last week. The OSU release says the school is NOT facing any further allegations.
Aug 12, 2011 2:31pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM
se-alum;860183 wrote:Also, the dates are very important. If that letter was sent on July 13th, the new allegation could've been investigated and over with by the time "OSU received the letter last week". There's a big difference in continuing to investigate 3 weeks ago, and continuing to investigate as of last week. The OSU release says the school is NOT facing any further allegations.

I'll agree with. However, the OSU release says that because there are no new allegations, not necessarily because their isn't still an investigation.
Aug 12, 2011 2:33pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM
WebFire;860186 wrote:I'll agree with. However, the OSU release says that because there are no new allegations, not necessarily because their isn't still an investigation.

My point being that we can't assume there is not an investigation, nor can we assume there is based on any of this.
Aug 12, 2011 2:33pm
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Aug 12, 2011 2:39 PM
WebFire;860189 wrote:My point being that we can't assume there is not an investigation, nor can we assume there is based on any of this.
Completely agree. I'm all for the NCAA being as thorough as they can possibly be. I would much rather serve the penalties for anything and everything right now, as opposed to this being brought back up 5 years down the road. Also, I have no problem with the national media writing about OSU and their wrongdoings, as long as they are basing their writings on fact. It's not like the scrutiny is undeserved. I imagine fans of any other school would want the same respect shown to their school if they were in the same situation.
Aug 12, 2011 2:39pm
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Aug 12, 2011 3:35 PM
Interesting fact:

USC's hearing with the NCAA went 3 days.

OSU's hearing lasted 3.5 hours.

UM's hearing was 7 hours.

Boise State's was 13 hours.

Tennessee's lasted 11 hours.

But Ohio State is supposed to have committed far more egregious acts and should have all but the death penalty, according to most ESPiN pundits, SI and other idiots like Bruce Hooley.

SMH at the pure bias and lack of logic so many so-called professionals let rule their life.
Aug 12, 2011 3:35pm
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Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM
Interesting fact:

USC's hearing with the NCAA went 3 days.

OSU's hearing lasted 3.5 hours.

UM's hearing was 7 hours.

Boise State's was 13 hours.

Tennessee's lasted 11 hours.

But Ohio State is supposed to have committed far more egregious acts and should have all but the death penalty, according to most ESPiN pundits, SI and other idiots like Bruce Hooley.

SMH at the pure bias and lack of logic so many so-called professionals let rule their life.
Aug 12, 2011 3:41pm
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Aug 12, 2011 3:48 PM
Writerbuckeye;860260 wrote: .... idiots like Bruce Hooley.

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Aug 12, 2011 3:54 PM
Writerbuckeye;860258 wrote:Interesting fact:

USC's hearing with the NCAA went 3 days.

OSU's hearing lasted 3.5 hours.

UM's hearing was 7 hours.

Boise State's was 13 hours.

Tennessee's lasted 11 hours.

But Ohio State is supposed to have committed far more egregious acts and should have all but the death penalty, according to most ESPiN pundits, SI and other idiots like Bruce Hooley.

SMH at the pure bias and lack of logic so many so-called professionals let rule their life.
This tells me that OSU was probably much more forthecoming and cooperative than the other schools.
Aug 12, 2011 3:54pm
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Aug 12, 2011 3:57 PM
By the way, I tried to delete one of those duplicates and the site wouldn't let me. It has been having a hissy fit lately. LJ must not be feeding the server enough blood or something. :)
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Aug 12, 2011 4:45 PM
se-alum;860275 wrote:This tells me that OSU was probably much more forthecoming and cooperative than the other schools.

I think it's hard to really try to guess why OSU's was so short. UM was definitely cooperative during their investigation. Opened the doors and the file drawers with open arms.

Maybe OSU had better council. Maybe OSU didn't have to plea as much. Maybe...
Aug 12, 2011 4:45pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:02 PM
stroups;860135 wrote:And we gave up our sugar bowl $$$ which was around 380,000.

how much of that cut was hush money for Ellis?
j/k
I've lost track of the saga.
Aug 12, 2011 5:02pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:22 PM
I was actually wrong on that figure. It was something like 338,000.
Aug 12, 2011 5:22pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:32 PM
WebFire;860327 wrote:
Maybe OSU had better council. Maybe OSU didn't have to plea as much. Maybe...

Or maybe Tressel placing an ongoing Federal drug investigation on pedestal above NCAA rules and then admitting that was the reason why he broke the rule made this case simple. That's my best guess.
Aug 12, 2011 5:32pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:38 PM
lhslep134;860370 wrote:Or maybe Tressel placing an ongoing Federal drug investigation on pedestal above NCAA rules and then admitting that was the reason why he broke the rule made this case simple. That's my best guess.


That doesn't explain why after the stuff came out in December, Tressel still kept it to himself. He never offered up that he was alerted to it, it was found by OSU looking for something else.

He was concerned for their safety, but then in December didn't remember it? He was concerned so much for Pryor's and Posey's safety that he only contacted Pryor's mentor? How does he explain that to Posey's family?
Aug 12, 2011 5:38pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:41 PM
karen lotz;860373 wrote:That doesn't explain why after the stuff came out in December, Tressel still kept it to himself. He never offered up that he was alerted to it, it was found by OSU looking for something else.

He was concerned for their safety, but then in December didn't remember it? He was concerned so much for Pryor's and Posey's safety that he only contacted Pryor's mentor? How does he explain that to Posey's family?
Read the 105 pg transcript. I'm not transcribing it for you.
Aug 12, 2011 5:41pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:42 PM
lhslep134;860374 wrote:Read the 105 pg transcript. I'm not transcribing it for you.


Quick synopsis of why he contacted Pryor's mentor but not anyone associated with Posey?
Aug 12, 2011 5:42pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:43 PM
I read through maybe 20 pages of it. Most of it was Tressel asking for clarification on what the question was.
Aug 12, 2011 5:43pm
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Aug 12, 2011 5:46 PM
karen lotz;860377 wrote:I read through maybe 20 pages of it. Most of it was Tressel asking for clarification on what the question was.

I thought most of it was Tressel saying "you know"?
Aug 12, 2011 5:46pm