Scooter1369;856311 wrote:One true statement there and one outright lie.

OSU has released everything to the NCAA, you know, the people that actually farking matter. And the NCAA is ready to rule on the complete set of info. ESPN wants it to sensationalize the story some more and do more damage by taking a sledgehammer to the car after the wreck is over. Its not for any other reason than to smear Ohio State some more.

WebFire;856309 wrote:Bingo! That's what I've said all along, but no one could wrap their head around it.

Scooter1369;856316 wrote:The requests for emails, voicemails, office memos, phone records, for Lyles, Kelly, The AD, The assistant coaches, and players families and mentors. Any effort by ESPN to actually try to bring down Oregon, get Kelly and the AD fired, Calling for failure to monitor, Lack of institutional control, the death penalty or the harshest penalties they can convince the NCAA to give.

That. Is. What's. Missing.

enigmaax;856327 wrote:The fact is that they got what they wanted from Oregon and OSU won't give them anything, despite being bound by law (not NCAA rules).

enigmaax;856327 wrote:It isn't a lie. The NCAA doesn't have anything to do with the open records law(s) that give ESPN the right to ask for and receive the information for whatever purpose. You can complain about what they do with the information all you want, but your question being addressed was why didn't they sue Oregon when they're suing OSU. The fact is that they got what they wanted from Oregon and OSU won't give them anything, despite being bound by law (not NCAA rules).

enigmaax;856327 wrote:It isn't a lie. The NCAA doesn't have anything to do with the open records law(s) that give ESPN the right to ask for and receive the information for whatever purpose. You can complain about what they do with the information all you want, but your question being addressed was why didn't they sue Oregon when they're suing OSU. The fact is that they got what they wanted from Oregon and OSU won't give them anything, despite being bound by law (not NCAA rules).

enigmaax;856336 wrote:Again, they didn't request any of those things before the NCAA ruled on OSU either. There has been no attempted resolution in the Oregon case yet, so it is a little early to say that they've mishandled it. And the mishandling of the OSU case by OSU's coach and administration is what drew more attention to them.

vball10set;856328 wrote: lol--wut?????

Writerbuckeye;856343 wrote:Which law would that be? The Ohio open records law or the federal law that maintains student privacy?

See the conflict?

You state that OSU "won't give them anything, despite being bound by law" when, in fact, that's not true. Ohio State has released everything their attorneys felt they could release, given student privacy laws. This isn't a black and white matter, but people like you (and ESPN) act as if it is. At some point, a judge will likely decide what is legally an open record or not. Until then, let's not act like we know what has to be provided, because we do not.

What I'm willing to bet, right now, is you will NOT hear all the ESPN pundits calling for people to be fired, hammers to be dropped on programs, and all the other BS you heard them say about Ohio State. They're in bed financially with those leagues (PAC 10 and SEC) and aren't going to damage their own product.

FatHobbit;856345 wrote:Other than clearing the tat5 to play in the bowl game (which was bs IMHO) has the NCAA ruled on OSU yet?

sleeper;856341 wrote:You clearly did not read OSU's response to the lawsuit. ESPN simply was lazy and asked for "all memos, letters, emails, documents, videos, phone conversations, between any and all staff, players, coaches, presidents, compliance offices, dealing with the tattoos, cars, mentors, for the past 20 years." It's not a request like "We'd like to see emails between Pryor and coach Tressel"

sleeper;856341 wrote:its not like OSU is not trying to be cooperative with ESPN;

ESPN is just trying to be a bully.

Writerbuckeye;856378 wrote:As someone who worked in state government and fulfilled hundreds of media requests under Ohio's open records law, I can tell you most media don't believe you are giving them everything no matter what you provide. If it doesn't have the smoking gun they're looking for, they think you're holding out on them.

What they don't get is that the people fulfilling those requests would lose their jobs if they held anything back. That's a fact. It is the same at OSU, I'm sure. Which is why I have a very hard time believing they are not cooperating on fulfilling the requests as best they're able.

Why would they jeopardize their jobs and pensions to protect Ohio State? They wouldn't.

darbypitcher22;856916 wrote:as Friday gets closer I still have a feeling that we won't have any sort of resolution to the case...

darbypitcher22;856916 wrote:as Friday gets closer I still have a feeling that we won't have any sort of resolution to the case...

dat dude;857225 wrote:Well, no. Friday is just the hearing. We won't know the penalties for an estimated six to eight weeks.