Writerbuckeye;864423 wrote:Seriously? A major media purposely edits the quote of a presidential candidate to make him appear racist and it's beating a dead horse in your mind?

This is a whole new level, so you're wrong.

When the MSM lies to manipulate opinion in favor of the left or against the right, liberals will certainly turn a blind eye. It's not about beating a dead horse. It's about being an ass.

Writerbuckeye;864423 wrote:Seriously? A major media purposely edits the quote of a presidential candidate to make him appear racist and it's beating a dead horse in your mind?

This is a whole new level, so you're wrong.

At some point, the media will gore his ox, THEN he will be upset. Until then, everyone else is debating an old subject. Sad, really.

The difference between conservatives and liberals I guess. I really don't want to win at all costs -- and I don't want my candidates or their allies to pull stuff that is unethical. I honestly do not think liberals feel the same way. For them, the ends justify the means. I've seen it too many times. The end result is power and how you get there doesn't seem to matter to them...unless they think the right has pulled a fast one.

Hypocrites.

BGFalcons82;864334 wrote:From the "Ed Show" - http://nation.foxnews.com/rick-perry/2011/08/16/nbc-news-edits-perry-black-cloud-comment-make-him-seem-racist

Can one of the, "there's no bias in the media" crowd explain what the fuck Ed and MSNBC are doing here? Is this what's in store for the next 15 months? How in the fuck does MSNBC have any sponsors? They can't be that dumb...can they?

Finally, can someone explain how this mofo keeps a job with such blatant mis-use of his journalistic license?

Writerbuckeye;864360 wrote:That's one of the more egregious examples of media bias I've seen. It's a blatant lie based on an edit and the lies of the commentator after he cuts off the Perry clip and tells us he's talking about Obama.

Shameful.

In the world of journalism not so far removed from today...everyone involved in such a hoax would be summarily fired. You won't see MSNBC do that, though. They have a niche audience (liberals) and don't care about the truth.

If either of you fools think Ed Schultz is a journalist then that tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of how media works in this country.

Schultz, Maddow, O'Reilly, Hannity, Van Sustern, O'Donnell and Limbaugh.

Not a fuckin' journalist among them, NOT ONE.

They're all entertainers, and they've got you right where they want you:

Watching their programs and talking about the mindless blather they push on the unsuspecting idiots who think they are watching news.

Writer, I'm really disappointed that such an accomplished member of the Fourth Estate could be taken in so easily.

2kool4skool;864419 wrote:

Writerbuckeye;864423 wrote:Seriously? A major media purposely edits the quote of a presidential candidate to make him appear racist and it's beating a dead horse in your mind?

This is a whole new level, so you're wrong.

Yeah, that horse is nowhere close to being dead. It's well on its way down the stretch at the Kentucky Derby, in fact. That horse has terminator-like qualities- it just won't die.

Writerbuckeye;864483 wrote:The difference between conservatives and liberals I guess. I really don't want to win at all costs -- and I don't want my candidates or their allies to pull stuff that is unethical..

Funny you say that. I went to Buckeye Boys State with a kid whose parent was (and apparently is) the treasurer for a county near Cleveland. He was the biggest Democrat I had ever met. Not a bleeding liberal, not an environmentalist quack, not a union guy per se....just a fan of the system and his party. So odd.

I don't know if you or anyone else has attended BBS, but the first thing you do is have an election. He personally went around and organized the "cool kids" (including me--of course--and Michigan's starting LG Patrick Omameh) and basically said we should steal the election by offering our opposition some of the best selected positions post-election, he said if we all won he would be able to dictate who received what money and could basically run shit illegally. Pretty shrewd thinking for a 17-year old with (cough) zero political background.

I told him to basically fuck himself and that it was unethical. It turns out we all won anyway, and he again gathered us and said he found a glitch in the BBS banking system's verification, and as our city's treasurer could cash made up checks and launder money--AT BUCKEYE BOY STATE. I convinced my buddies that that idea as asinine and we shouldn't do shit to get in trouble.

Well it turns out that at the end of the week he revealed to us that he had stolen (behind our backs) something like ~$6,000,000 from the BBS state laundering money through their system and that none of them knew where to find it.

I shake my head that this guy has a parent who is actually a county treasurer somewhere. Where do you think he learned that shit?

On that note: http://lorain.woio.com/news/politics/treasurer-karen-shawver-responds-incorrect-tax-calculation-accusations/55105

"Karen Shawver Responds To Incorrect Tax Calculation Accusations"

Considering his name was Cory Shawver and this was in Lorain, I'm thinking that's her. Pretty funny in my opinion.

stlouiedipalma;864671 wrote:Not a fuckin' journalist among them, NOT ONE.

You just wrote the epitaph for your butt buddies in the leftist MSM.

stlouiedipalma;864671 wrote:If either of you fools think Ed Schultz is a journalist then that tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of how media works in this country.

Schultz, Maddow, O'Reilly, Hannity, Van Sustern, O'Donnell and Limbaugh.

Not a fuckin' journalist among them, NOT ONE.

They're all entertainers, and they've got you right where they want you:

Watching their programs and talking about the mindless blather they push on the unsuspecting idiots who think they are watching news.

Writer, I'm really disappointed that such an accomplished member of the Fourth Estate could be taken in so easily.

Here's the difference: You don't take a DIRECT QUOTE from a presidential candidate and deliberately skew it to make him look bad. Entertainer or journalist, it's not done. It's unethical on every level of journalism in the world, from TMZ to the NY Times. It's the biggest taboo of all.

And just in case you've forgotten: NBC News promotes MSNBC all the time as it's "news partner" during their broadcasts. So even if Schultz qualifies as a leftist Limbaugh in your mind, he's employed by one of the biggest news entities in the free world.

jhay78;849646 wrote:Tea Partiers have been called "terrorists", the "Hezbollah faction" of the Republican party, etc etc. All of this even though some in our government refused to use the word "terrorist" when referring to violent factions of extreme religious groups who seek to blow us to pieces.

You lie or at least stretch the truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-denial-that-biden-called-tea-party-activists-terrorists/2011/08/16/gIQAr1g3JJ_blog.html?hpid=z3

Lol you mean Biden didn't admit to saying something in a closed door meeting?

Bigdogg;865186 wrote:You lie or at least stretch the truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-denial-that-biden-called-tea-party-activists-terrorists/2011/08/16/gIQAr1g3JJ_blog.html?hpid=z3

You need to find where I mentioned Joe Biden's name in any of my posts before you call me a liar. The point I made in the original post still stands- the mainstream media sets the hypocrisy bar higher than anyone or anything else in our society.

And yet the story continues to circulate, even though the major print media — such as The New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal — never did their own stories confirming Biden’s alleged statement. We were struck by Rhodes’ comment that Biden’s comment was all over national TV, and therefore must be true, so how could the president deny it?

Well, obviously if the Slimes and the Compost didn't do a story on it, then it definitely didn't happen.

Bigdogg;865186 wrote:You lie or at least stretch the truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-denial-that-biden-called-tea-party-activists-terrorists/2011/08/16/gIQAr1g3JJ_blog.html?hpid=z3

The original story was reported by The Politico on 8-1-11 - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60421.html

Vice President Joe Biden joined House Democrats in lashing tea party Republicans Monday, accusing them of having “acted like terrorists” in the fight over raising the nation’s debt limit, according to several sources in the room. Biden was agreeing with a line of argument made by Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) at a two-hour, closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting.

“We have negotiated with terrorists,” an angry Doyle said, according to sources in the room. “This small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money.” Biden, driven by his Democratic allies’ misgivings about the debt-limit deal, responded: “They have acted like terrorists.”

More eloquence from the party that claims all voices should be heard:

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) called it a “Satan sandwich,” and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) called seemed to enjoy the heat analogy, saying: “the Tea Partiers and the GOP have made their slash and burn lunacy clear, and while I do not love this compromise, my vote is a hose to stop the burning. The arsonists must be stopped.

The Human Gaffe Machine is well known for lacing up his Chuck Taylor's and shoving them straight into his pie hole, therefore it is extremely conceivable that he called Americans, "terrorists".

Tobias Fünke;864978 wrote:Funny you say that. I went to Buckeye Boys State

This should have been the point when you reconsidered telling this story.

Writerbuckeye;864423 wrote:Seriously? A major media purposely edits the quote of a presidential candidate to make him appear racist and it's beating a dead horse in your mind?

This is a whole new level, so you're wrong.

This coming from the same network that did this?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/08/18/msnbc-no-mention-black-gun-owner-among-racist-protesters

You can't be surprised.

Scooter1369;866084 wrote:This coming from the same network that did this?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/08/18/msnbc-no-mention-black-gun-owner-among-racist-protesters

You can't be surprised.

Actually, I can. Deliberately misquoting a presidential candidate to try and discredit him is akin to what Dan Rather tried to do to Bush with his phony National Guard papers. It's an attempt to sway an election (in this case a primary) by falsifying information used by voters to make voting decisions.

Screwing with a direct quote is the lowest a member of the media can go...and pundit (vs. journalist) or not, he is employed by a news channel that regularly partners with NBC on mainstream media coverage. His standards have to be higher than those of someone who isn't directly affiliated with a news organization like NBC.

If O'Reilly had done this with a prominent Democrat on Fox News, he'd be the subject of actual news stories by other members of the media and there would be more calls from the left that Fox should be shut down. Of course, since this happened, we've heard nothing from members of the MSM...yet more proof of the left's widespread hypocrisy.

BGFalcons82;865535 wrote:The original story was reported by The Politico on 8-1-11 - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60421.html



More eloquence from the party that claims all voices should be heard:



The Human Gaffe Machine is well known for lacing up his Chuck Taylor's and shoving them straight into his pie hole, therefore it is extremely conceivable that he called Americans, "terrorists".

Much to do about nothing. I could get out similar quotes out of Teabagger mouths. You do know the difference between some saying "acting like" and outright calling someone a name correct? Or did your mommy and daddy waste their money on you at BG?

Bigdogg;866442 wrote:You do know the difference between some saying "acting like" and outright calling someone a name correct?

A distinction with no difference other than a lack of guts by the name-caller.

Bigdogg;866442 wrote:Much to do about nothing. I could get out similar quotes out of Teabagger mouths. You do know the difference between some saying "acting like" and outright calling someone a name correct? Or did your mommy and daddy waste their money on you at BG?

Explain it to us, Professor!

(This should be good.)

fish82;866460 wrote:Explain it to us, Professor!

(This should be good.)

Fish,
You seem to post on everything I do. Are you a creeper?

Bigdogg;866442 wrote:Much to do about nothing. I could get out similar quotes out of Teabagger mouths.

Then get 'em, big boy.

Even with the billions of dead brain cells left behind in my 4 years there, I've forgotten more from my days on Wooster than you've ever learned.

BGFalcons82;866511 wrote:Then get 'em, big boy.

Even with the billions of dead brain cells left behind in my 4 years there, I've forgotten more from my days on Wooster than you've ever learned.

I am sure teabaggers everywhere agree with you.

Bigdogg;866499 wrote:Fish,
You seem to post on everything I do. Are you a creeper?

No...you're just that easy of a target. You appeal to my lazy side.

fish82;866575 wrote:No...you're just that easy of a target. You appeal to my lazy side.

Sorry Fish, I don't swing that way. You might try Fairwood, he would be great in dance class and may let you lead. You a pitcher or a catcher?

Bigdogg;866442 wrote:Much to do about nothing. I could get out similar quotes out of Teabagger mouths. You do know the difference between some saying "acting like" and outright calling someone a name correct? Or did your mommy and daddy waste their money on you at BG?

You can't be serious...find me a "Teabagger" that is in OFFICE in DC that has made comments like this.

You can't compare some common guy saying stuff about the liberals to the stinking Vice President saying people in CONGRESS are acting like terrorists.

You are truly blinded by your left wing hatred that you can't see the HUGE difference?