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Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM
like_that;846544 wrote:SMH this is exactly why I didn't want them to make a trade. They are done, so what the hell is the point in throwing away prospects?

lol, the prospects we "threw away" were garbage in the 1st place.

Two guys who probably will never see the big leagues, quite honestly.
Jul 30, 2011 1:16pm
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Jul 30, 2011 1:17 PM
hoops23;846608 wrote:lol, the prospects we "threw away" were garbage in the 1st place.

Two guys who probably will never see the big leagues, quite honestly.

You never know. We threw two pieces of garbage for one piece of garbage. What is the point? At least give the two pieces of garbage a chance.
Jul 30, 2011 1:17pm
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Jul 30, 2011 1:20 PM
Cliff Lee was never thought to be anything more than a #4 starter, and he's turned out to be the best pitcher in the League. Give them a chance or at least use them for a useable player. Fukudome is trash.
Jul 30, 2011 1:20pm
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Jul 30, 2011 1:22 PM
like_that;846611 wrote:You never know. We threw two pieces of garbage for one piece of garbage. What is the point? At least give the two pieces of garbage a chance.

I'm tired of giving prospective pieces of garbage a chance...

Hitting prospects haven't been panning out too well for us. The only guy I honestly have faith in is Carlos Santana because I think he's having a productive year outside of the batting average.

LaPorta is garbage, Chiz and Kipnis haven't impressed me too much either... What offense do we really have?

I'm tired of building for the future. We have been doing that since 2001 with 1 playoff appearance to show for it. We have some great pitching prospects that I wouldn't touch, but just about everybody else is available IMO.

You just never know year to year how the bullpen will perform either. 2007 the guys were lights out, 2008 they couldn't finish any game with a lead. When you have a chance to make the playoffs, you HAVE to take it.

And despite all the BS play from the team, they're still in the division race as of now.
Jul 30, 2011 1:22pm
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Jul 30, 2011 1:24 PM
Commander of Awesome;846613 wrote:Cliff Lee was never thought to be anything more than a #4 starter, and he's turned out to be the best pitcher in the League. Give them a chance or at least use them for a useable player. Fukudome is trash.

Huh? I thought Cliff Lee was going to be a very, very good pitcher. A lot of people did.

Cliff Lee also did well in the minors. The two guys we traded were not. Smith is a AAAA player who had a near 5 ERA in triple A as a reliever..

Abner Abreu has been in single A for 3 years and has over 100 k's in 300 AB's. Sorry, I don't think we lost much in the single A Russell Branyan.

Fukudome is solid player, one I wouldn't mind keeping past this year at the right price.
Jul 30, 2011 1:24pm
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Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM
Commander of Awesome;846613 wrote:Cliff Lee was never thought to be anything more than a #4 starter, and he's turned out to be the best pitcher in the League. Give them a chance or at least use them for a useable player. Fukudome is trash.

Fukudome isn't trash. He's not an all star either. But he's much better than Kearns or Buck, and the 2 guys they traded had little to no chance at sniffing the bigs.
Jul 30, 2011 1:27pm
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Jul 30, 2011 5:53 PM
Commander of Awesome;846613 wrote:Cliff Lee was never thought to be anything more than a #4 starter, and he's turned out to be the best pitcher in the League. Give them a chance or at least use them for a useable player. Fukudome is trash.

Since when? I think most people had him slated as a #2 starter. He and Phillips were MUST HAVES in the deal to Montreal.
Jul 30, 2011 5:53pm
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Jul 30, 2011 6:21 PM
Commander of Awesome;846613 wrote:Cliff Lee was never thought to be anything more than a #4 starter, and he's turned out to be the best pitcher in the League. Give them a chance or at least use them for a useable player. Fukudome is trash.

Dolan is that you? Please Gtfo if you think the fukudome trade was awful. The tribe gave up 2 career minor leaguers for a top 15 obp guy
Jul 30, 2011 6:21pm
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Jul 30, 2011 6:40 PM
Well, pretty soon we find out if the Tribe drops to .500 even. Let's see, last two game re-cap, no hit and then shut out. As I type, Rosenhouse says the Indians are working "feverishly" to make some trades. Ha ha!
Jul 30, 2011 6:40pm
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Jul 30, 2011 6:46 PM
BRF;846759 wrote:Well, pretty soon we find out if the Tribe drops to .500 even. Let's see, last two game re-cap, no hit and then shut out. As I type, Rosenhouse says the Indians are working "feverishly" to make some trades. Ha ha!
Is there even a chance for another trade???
Jul 30, 2011 6:46pm
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Jul 30, 2011 6:56 PM
baseball4;846764 wrote:Is there even a chance for another trade???

That's why I added the "Ha ha"! ;-)
Jul 30, 2011 6:56pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:12 PM
Tigers lose. Must win tonight.
Jul 30, 2011 7:12pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:20 PM
Fuck. We have basically traded for Ubaldo. Kipnis, White and Pomeranz are centerpieces. Not all 3, but I would assume 2.

Pomeranz also scratched tonight.
Jul 30, 2011 7:20pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:21 PM
well, looks like a perfect game is in the works for a guy who cant buy a win on the mound.
Jul 30, 2011 7:21pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:24 PM
I guess the Rockiers asked for Pomeranz, Chiz, and Kipnis. No word on what we countered with. I hope to GOD they didnt give in and make that deal.
Jul 30, 2011 7:24pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:26 PM
Laley23;846789 wrote:I guess the Rockiers asked for Pomeranz, Chiz, and Kipnis. No word on what we countered with. I hope to GOD they didnt give in and make that deal.

We better get a stud hitter thrown in if that is the trade...no reason to mortgage the future if you aren't getting a bat in the deal.
Jul 30, 2011 7:26pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:29 PM
bases_loaded;846791 wrote:We better get a stud hitter thrown in if that is the trade...no reason to mortgage the future if you aren't getting a bat in the deal.

I agree. Word is that was what they wanted/offered. Im sure we countered with less on our end, or more on their end. This is the type of deal that may not be done till tomorrow as each team tries to call the others bluff.

On that note, it could also fall through.
Jul 30, 2011 7:29pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:29 PM
Laley23;846789 wrote:I guess the Rockiers asked for Pomeranz, Chiz, and Kipnis. No word on what we countered with. I hope to GOD they didnt give in and make that deal.

If Pomeranz is in this deal, I will throw up.
Jul 30, 2011 7:29pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:30 PM
White and Pomeranz both scratched tonight. White was throwing a rehab game and Pom was throwing at Akron...you can't beat teams 1-0 the rest of the season, so unless they are getting a bat too this is mortgaging the future to finish out of the playoffs
Jul 30, 2011 7:30pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM
bases_loaded;846797 wrote:White and Pomeranz both scratched tonight. White was throwing a rehab game and Pom was throwing at Akron...you can't beat teams 1-0 the rest of the season, so unless they are getting a bat too this is mortgaging the future to finish out of the playoffs

Hopefully that means it was just because both were in negotiations. I wouldnt mind White, but I dont want Pomeranz dealt.
Jul 30, 2011 7:31pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:32 PM
Until Ubaldo is scratched I don't think there is anything going on....still scheduled to pitch tonight
Jul 30, 2011 7:32pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:33 PM
BRF;846768 wrote:That's why I added the "Ha ha"! ;-)

I was seriosuly asking lol
Jul 30, 2011 7:33pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:33 PM
bases_loaded;846800 wrote:Until Ubaldo is scratched I don't think there is anything going on....still scheduled to pitch tonight

agreed. We have an hour I guess.
Jul 30, 2011 7:33pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:36 PM
The fact that they are talking about it during the telecast makes me thinks that something is up.
Jul 30, 2011 7:36pm
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Jul 30, 2011 7:37 PM
Most recent news is Kip, White, and Pomeranz all being talked about. I swear to God if we trade all 3 for Ubaldo I will kill someone
Jul 30, 2011 7:37pm