Where did I say recruiting would be the same?thedynasty1998;839900 wrote:What makes each of those guys better recruiters than Tressel?
And how quickly we forget how well Cooper recruited.
se-alum;839919 wrote:Never stated that any one of those guys was better than Tressel.
Pick6;839954 wrote:Where did I say recruiting would be the same?
You implied that this situation is worse than USCs by the violations, not what may happen with recruiting in the future. Even if you were talking about recruiting, USC's has taken a hit as well.
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lhslep134;839962 wrote:Dynasty still hasn't answered if this situation is still worse than USC's.
Hb31187;839854 wrote:You think Fickell is one of the top coaches in the country even before hes coached a game? O.o
dwccrew;840359 wrote:Where did I say Fickell was one of the top coaches in the country? I said a step down from Tressel would still be one of the top coaches in the country. You stated Fickell was "at least" a step down from Tressel, not me. These two statements are mutually exclusive. Silly Michigan fans.
thedynasty1998;840011 wrote:Didn't mean to quote you on that. But yes, I do think what happened at OSU is worse.
Big Gain;840370 wrote:USC had 34 NCAA infractions Ohio State has 5.
lhslep134;840372 wrote:Well clearly 5 is worse than 34, especially worse because Ohio State's only happened in football which is worse than happening in football AND basketball.
The fact that the above is Dynasty's thought process shows me pretty much all I need to know....
thedynasty1998;840394 wrote:I'm sorry, but knowingly playing 5 ineligible players for an entire season and not going forward is worse than one players receiving benefits in which the head coach wasn't aware of (yes I know someone likely knew of the money, buy it wasn't proven as in the OSU case).
How ignorant are you?thedynasty1998;840394 wrote: (yes I know someone likely knew of the money, buy it wasn't proven as in the OSU case).
Do you always talk out of your ass, or do you genuinely believe what you say?In essence, the NCAA determined that by speaking to Lake, a convicted felon who was reportedly in the process of setting up a marketing firm, McNair knew about extra benefits given to Bush.
dwccrew;839246 wrote:Note that I had "nobody" in parantheses. Many viewed Tressel as a bad hire, despite all the success he had at YSU.
I am hoping that Fickell will be like some other former Tressel assistants that have moved on to the HC job and had success like Dantonio at UC and MSU and Beckman at Toledo. Maybe Fickell will be the next one?
This is implying Fickell will be one of the best in the country? I was responding to your follow up post to the above quote. What you perceive the post to be is not reality. I never stated, nor do I think, that Fickell will be or is one of the top coaches in the country at this point in time.Hb31187;840366 wrote:You def implied it, silly OSU fan.
right on, writerWriterbuckeye;840494 wrote:The USC assistant coach knew about Bush -- which is why he got a show cause penalty. So don't say nobody knew at USC.
And comparing the two situations is ridiculous. USC obfuscated and delayed doing anything for years...Ohio State invited the NCAA in to investigate as soon as it was known that Tressel did not come forward with what he knew about the players as early as he should have.
That's a huge difference.
Does it surprise you? He's been a passive-aggressive hater of the Buckeyes for years.lhslep134;840661 wrote:SMH at Dynasty's ignorance.
thedynasty1998;840394 wrote:I'm sorry, but knowingly playing 5 ineligible players for an entire season and not going forward is worse than one players receiving benefits in which the head coach wasn't aware of (yes I know someone likely knew of the money, buy it wasn't proven as in the OSU case).
Y-Town Steelhound;840698 wrote:I'm sorry, but if you're going to try and make this argument...at least make it CORRECTLY. Ohio State knowingly played 2 ineligible players, not 5...only 2 were mentioned in the emails that Tressel got, the rest weren't discovered until everyone else knew. I actually feel sorry for you dynasty, you can't even get your facts right!
lhslep134;840661 wrote:SMH at Dynasty's ignorance.
dat dude;840939 wrote:It's to be expected at this point. He enjoys playing the contrarian role in every aspect. Those who side with buckeye fans are homers, while he looks like he can put his emotions aside and speak objectively. It's fairly transparent.
I do think OSU welcoming the NCAA makes the biggest difference.Writerbuckeye;840494 wrote:The USC assistant coach knew about Bush -- which is why he got a show cause penalty. So don't say nobody knew at USC.
And comparing the two situations is ridiculous. USC obfuscated and delayed doing anything for years...Ohio State invited the NCAA in to investigate as soon as it was known that Tressel did not come forward with what he knew about the players as early as he should have.
That's a huge difference.
se-alum;840669 wrote:Does it surprise you? He's been a passive-aggressive hater of the Buckeyes for years.
I thought that only two players were originally mentioned and then the others were revealed by Cicero. I may be wrong on that, but regardless the head coach knowingly played two ineligible players every single game. Maybe it's just me but that is really disturbing. It's one thing to not want to know and not ask questions, it's another to know and discuss it with some dude from Pennsylvania.Writerbuckeye;840816 wrote:Which makes him and ideal candidate to become a writer for SI or ESPiN.
