NCAA Finds No New Violations in OSU Case: Will Not Charge Failure to Monitor or LOIC

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Jul 22, 2011 5:00 PM
Automatik;838098 wrote:Ok so does this means no post season ban and no loss of schollies? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

They didn't announce any penalties or say there wouldn't be. My guess is some scholarship restrictions, but that's it.
Jul 22, 2011 5:00pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:00 PM
good news if in fact it's true. hopefully now we can get back to football and hire a new long term coach (assuming of course fickel is not the guy, which is my stance).
Jul 22, 2011 5:00pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:01 PM
Terry_Tate;838110 wrote:They didn't announce any penalties or say there wouldn't be. My guess is some scholarship restrictions, but that's it.

I should have read further before I posted that.

"OSU officials are scheduled to appear before the NCAA's Infractions Committee on Aug. 12. The NCAA will decide whether to accept the OSU-imposed penalties or apply further sanctions."

It's not over, but this is very good news.
Jul 22, 2011 5:01pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:13 PM
ernest_t_bass;838100 wrote:With this new out, why in the hell did they vacate the 2010 season?

Who really cares? Vacating means approximately dick.
Jul 22, 2011 5:13pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:15 PM
Good news, indeed, and NOT unexpected by many of us.

The odds of a post season ban just dropped to nearly zero, and the chance of any significant scholarship reductions are right there, too.

And yes, Karen, today's "story" by Ch. 10 was an epic, epic failure and must one more example of the lack of competent journalism we live with today. Their "story" was based on old news with some anonymous (and therefore unreliable) sources trying to say the opposite of what Tressel told the NCAA.

Edit to add: the vacating of the season was the right thing to do since the players involved were ineligible until they had served some type of suspension. I think vacating is silly, too. They'd be better served letting the records stand and fining the institutions for their bowl take or something similar. That would send a much clearer message to the institutions if the NCAA truly wants to reign in stuff -- which I am now convinced they mostly don't care about.
Jul 22, 2011 5:15pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:20 PM
georgedohrmann George Dohrmann
NCAA met with SI source on OSU story, said it couldn't grant him confidentiality. So, players walk. Happens. SI story still 100% accurate
NCAA higher ups can authorize confidentiality for a source but wouldn't even though source feared retribution by Rife & buckeye nation.

Someone isn't happy.
Jul 22, 2011 5:20pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:26 PM
karen lotz;838129 wrote:georgedohrmann George Dohrmann




Someone isn't happy.

Excuses are like assholes George, everyone has them and they all stink. Talk about a sore loser, hope he's doing well with those lawsuits filed to SI by some of the players mentioned in his article.
Jul 22, 2011 5:26pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:28 PM
Jim Tressel: I remember her bringing up the fact, she said, “Hey, one of the kids
mentioned that you had talked to ’em about a problem was coming
or something,” or, “that there was an issue or whatever,” and that
you – that I had heard something, because I think the kid had said
to Julie, “Yeah. Coach Tressel mentioned to me, you know, that he was hearing things,” or, you know, something like that.
And so Julie said to me something about that when there was the
three or four us in there. And I said, “You know what? Yeah, I do
remember.” I said, “There was a kid that’s an attorney and he was
a walk-on player for us. And he gave me a tip, you know, that –”
and I said, “I can’t remember his name to save my life.” I did not
say anything that he e-mailed me. And I couldn’t remember his
name. But that occurred before the discussion you’re talking about
where I went back to my office and was there.
cool story bro
Jul 22, 2011 5:28pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:33 PM
Y-Town Steelhound;838002 wrote:Well what can I say? Suck it haters....

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/07/22/ncaa-ohio-state-violations.html

Hmmm....suck it? Haha. Ok.

I don't think anyone is surprised by this, are they? And I guess if losing your almost legendary coach, should-have-been 4 year starting QB, a handful of other with a 5 game supsension, and vacating an entire season is something to suck it to, then I'm in.

Now the question is, do you all think they accept OSU's self-imposed actions? At this point I think so.
Jul 22, 2011 5:33pm
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Y-Town Steelhound;838132 wrote:Excuses are like assholes George, everyone has them and they all stink. Talk about a sore loser, hope he's doing well with those lawsuits filed to SI by some of the players mentioned in his article.

I didn't think any of those were ever filed.
Jul 22, 2011 5:33pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:35 PM
WebFire;838140 wrote:Hmmm....suck it? Haha. Ok.

I don't think anyone is surprised by this, are they? And I guess if losing your almost legendary coach, should-have-been 4 year starting QB, a handful of other with a 5 game supsension, and vacating an entire season is something to suck it to, then I'm in.

Now the question is, do you all think they accept OSU's self-imposed actions? At this point I think so.
You've been one of the few UM fans I've encountered (not speaking of just on this site btw) that didn't think OSU should get basically the death penalty. Obviously OSU losing Tressel is worse than any NCAA sanctions that could've happened...some people weren't satisfied with that though.
Jul 22, 2011 5:35pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:36 PM
dat dude;838092 wrote:I'm actually surprised Webfire didn't break this news. He's usually on top of every new breaking story regarding OSU.

Actually, I don't think I ever broke any "news". I just posted articles on current topics.
Jul 22, 2011 5:36pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:38 PM
Y-Town Steelhound;838142 wrote:You've been one of the few UM fans I've encountered (not speaking of just on this site btw) that didn't think OSU should get basically the death penalty. Obviously OSU losing Tressel is worse than any NCAA sanctions that could've happened...some people weren't satisfied with that though.

I agree, losing Tressel was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Sure losing a few schollies will suck, but not have near the impact that losing Tress does.

I still think OSU fucked up by not keeping him. I think they had a chance to get through this with him remaining the coach. But maybe that's why the NCAA isn't going to hammer them. OSU voluntarily fired it's coach and vacated a season, and that may have satisfied the NCAA.
Jul 22, 2011 5:38pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:56 PM
The tweets people are sending to @10tv are hilarious!!!!!
Jul 22, 2011 5:56pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:57 PM
Tressel is gone because the Board of Trustees is a gutless group that whimpers every time there's a negative article or TV program about OSU. They couldn't stand the heat, even though it was pretty clear from the very poor sources used by all these "journalists" that the odds of anything actually being true were slim.

Still, the BOT wanted the heat off and felt getting rid of Tressel was the quickest way to get there.

Even that didn't work, as the stories continued ad nauseum.

I agree with you, Web. I think if they'd have just gutted it out and suspended Tressel for the year, they could have kept him as coach and I don't believe faced any worse sanctions than they now face.

Losing Tressel ends the most successful era in OSU history as far as football wins, Big Ten titles and wins over UM go. It has never been done before and likely won't be done again anytime soon (although I'd love it to continue).

Now we move on with Fickell and see if he's got "it" or not. If he can't somehow conjure up a very good season and recruiting class, I believe OSU moves on.

If Urban Meyer wants the job, Fickell or not, it's his.
Jul 22, 2011 5:57pm
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Jul 22, 2011 6:00 PM
I don't think urban will be someone osu is crazy about hiring. Florida has a long long list of arrests the last few years. Do you really want more negative attention?? Espn didn't even mention the Florida arrests. But if it's happening at osu, they will for sure.
Jul 22, 2011 6:00pm
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Jul 22, 2011 6:03 PM
The NCAA will not hammer Ohio State with its worst-possible findings of loss of institutional control or failure to monitor, which would bring significant punishment.
dat dude;838047 wrote:

#HatersGonHate
Jul 22, 2011 6:03pm
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Jul 22, 2011 6:06 PM
A lot of schools seem to go through a spate of arrests like Florida had happen. It happened at Penn State, at OSU (lesser charges, mostly) with Tressel, and a few others. Part of it, I think, had to do with SEC recruiting and standards, and could be corrected if Meyer wants the job. He wouldn't be allowed to take as many character risks at OSU -- because Tressel was limited to one or two per class (at most). I don't see that changing, regardless of who the coach ends up being.

You could be right, though, given how timid the Board seems to have been during this investigation. Also, I have ZERO confidence in Smith being a strong enough AD to hire the best coach available if he has to go to battle and defend his choice. He's not the type, from what I've seen.
Jul 22, 2011 6:06pm
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Jul 22, 2011 6:20 PM
This is very good news. I think the only thing to be added to the sanctions come Aug 12 will be a few lost schollys and a year or two of probation.
Jul 22, 2011 6:20pm
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Jul 22, 2011 7:00 PM
With this news coming out today, I would say that Luke is a one and done and Urban Meyer will be the coach in 2012 if he wants to be.
Jul 22, 2011 7:00pm
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Ty Webb;838194 wrote:With this news coming out today, I would say that Luke is a one and done and Urban Meyer will be the coach in 2012 if he wants to be.

Closer to Gibby, I'm sure that's what he wants.
Jul 22, 2011 7:10pm
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Jul 22, 2011 8:08 PM
ernest_t_bass;838078 wrote:With this new out, why in the hell did they vacate the 2010 season?

Are you kidding me?
Jul 22, 2011 8:08pm