If you were the Cincinnati Reds GM, would you do this deal.

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Ty Webb

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Jul 18, 2011 11:48 PM
you send Travis Wood, Edinson Volquez and Yonder Alonso to Colorado

You get Ubaldo Jimenez.

That is the package that Jon Heyman said it may be to land Jimenez.
Jul 18, 2011 11:48pm
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Jul 18, 2011 11:53 PM
Simply put, yes.
Jul 18, 2011 11:53pm
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Jul 19, 2011 12:14 AM
Without a fucking doubt.
Jul 19, 2011 12:14am
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dave

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Jul 19, 2011 12:15 AM
hell yeah but that's just a starting point. It's going to take more.
Jul 19, 2011 12:15am
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Jul 19, 2011 12:16 AM
He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
Jul 19, 2011 12:16am
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Jul 19, 2011 12:39 AM
Ty Webb;833977 wrote:He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
Heath Bell?
Jul 19, 2011 12:39am
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Jul 19, 2011 12:39 AM
That is the only name I could think of since they missed out on Rodriguez.
Jul 19, 2011 12:39am
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Jul 19, 2011 1:19 AM
I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!
Jul 19, 2011 1:19am
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Jul 19, 2011 1:35 AM
Midstate01;834002 wrote:I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.
Jul 19, 2011 1:35am
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Jul 19, 2011 1:35 AM
dave;834005 wrote:Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.

No thanks!!
Jul 19, 2011 1:35am
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Jul 19, 2011 9:14 AM
Ty, can I trade you to JJHuddle for some other people?
Jul 19, 2011 9:14am
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Jul 19, 2011 9:45 AM
If I were the Reds GM, I'd find a job where I could compete for championships.
Jul 19, 2011 9:45am
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Jul 19, 2011 9:55 AM
What is Jiminez contract look like?

I am not ready to give up on EV yet. Wood is a dime a dozen type of pitcher, and Alonso is expendable with the roster the reds already have.

I would lean towards yes if Jimenez is under contract for another two seasons.
Jul 19, 2011 9:55am
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Jul 19, 2011 9:58 AM
Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.
Jul 19, 2011 9:58am
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Jul 19, 2011 10:03 AM
Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.

Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.

I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
Jul 19, 2011 10:03am
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Jul 19, 2011 10:11 AM
karen lotz;834153 wrote:Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.

And pretty cheap.
thavoice;834157 wrote:Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.

Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.

I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
I would definitely trade Volquez for Jimenez. Jimenez is a solid sub-4 era guy. He's not really an Ace, but would be very nice to have behind Cueto. A rotation of:

Cueto
Jimenez
Leake
Chapman
Arroyo

Can you imagine a 3 game series where you have to go from Jimenez to Leake to Chapman or Chapman to Arroyo to Cueto. That would be tough on a team.
Jul 19, 2011 10:11am
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Jul 19, 2011 10:40 AM
I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.
Jul 19, 2011 10:40am
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Jul 19, 2011 10:47 AM
Chapman needs to start. Nick Masset can be the closer when CoCo leaves. If he figures out April he'd probably be the best closer in the game.
Jul 19, 2011 10:47am
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thavoice

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Jul 19, 2011 10:55 AM
&^^ Agreed. I think Massett has the stuff to be a great closer, but sometimes guys just flat out cannot handle the pressure.

I think he has nasty stuff...if he can just get that first batter out he faces! Would hate to see how many of his first batters get on.
Jul 19, 2011 10:55am
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Jul 19, 2011 11:06 AM
First batter has a .273/.304/.341 line.
Jul 19, 2011 11:06am
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Jul 19, 2011 11:09 AM
Would do it for two, not three. Price tag seems a little high. Agree with one who mentioned hitting being the problem not pitching. Whats Xavier Nady up to these days?
Jul 19, 2011 11:09am
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thavoice

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Jul 19, 2011 11:09 AM
Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.

I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?
Jul 19, 2011 11:09am
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Jul 19, 2011 11:15 AM
thavoice;834240 wrote:Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.

I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?

You mean a closer?
Jul 19, 2011 11:15am
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Jul 19, 2011 11:42 AM
my bad.
Jul 19, 2011 11:42am
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Jul 19, 2011 12:01 PM
thavoice;834203 wrote:I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.
From all that I've read, Chapman is likely a starter next season. I don't think there has ever been serious talk about making him a closer, unless he shows that he can't hack it as a starter.
Jul 19, 2011 12:01pm