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dave
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Jul 18, 2011 4:21pm
I like that lineup. Still think Lewis is a better #1 but since he only plays every 3rd game it's better to keep the top consistent. There are no easy outs 1-9 there if Stubbs keeps up his new approach.
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dave
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Jul 18, 2011 4:30pm
This hardly looks like the same Pirates team we are used to seeing. Hopefully their lack of ABs against DTrain and Leake hurt them.
1. Alex Presley (L) LF
2. Chase d'Arnaud (R) SS
3. Neil Walker (S) 2B
4. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
5. Matt Diaz (R) RF
6. Lyle Overbay (L) 1B
7. Brandon Wood (R) 3B
8. Michael McKenry (R) C
9. Charlie Morton (R) P
1. Alex Presley (L) LF
2. Chase d'Arnaud (R) SS
3. Neil Walker (S) 2B
4. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
5. Matt Diaz (R) RF
6. Lyle Overbay (L) 1B
7. Brandon Wood (R) 3B
8. Michael McKenry (R) C
9. Charlie Morton (R) P
Ironman92
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Jul 18, 2011 4:53pm
dave;833418 wrote:I like that lineup. Still think Lewis is a better #1 but since he only plays every 3rd game it's better to keep the top consistent. There are no easy outs 1-9 there if Stubbs keeps up his new approach.
Stubbs must but several of those guys can give up some very easy outs....all players do...I think it's more up to the plate approaches of #3-#5 hitters.....seems to decide whether or not the Reds roll.
Non
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Jul 18, 2011 4:56pm
Presley has been outstanding. I think what we're seeing in this small sampling is legit. He makes a lot of good contact and sprays the ball around.
d'Arnaud is excitable but that brings good and bad. Plays fast but too fast for his own good at times.
Obviously the Bucs have a glaring hole in the lineup after Walker and McCutchen. Need one more bat for 3-4-5 if they're going to seriously threaten.
Maybe Alvarez could emerge and be that guy when he comes back but imagine an Aramis Ramirez or Hunter Pence, that would be a good fit.
d'Arnaud is excitable but that brings good and bad. Plays fast but too fast for his own good at times.
Obviously the Bucs have a glaring hole in the lineup after Walker and McCutchen. Need one more bat for 3-4-5 if they're going to seriously threaten.
Maybe Alvarez could emerge and be that guy when he comes back but imagine an Aramis Ramirez or Hunter Pence, that would be a good fit.
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 5:08pm
Non;833456 wrote:Presley has been outstanding. I think what we're seeing in this small sampling is legit. He makes a lot of good contact and sprays the ball around.
d'Arnaud is excitable but that brings good and bad. Plays fast but too fast for his own good at times.
Obviously the Bucs have a glaring hole in the lineup after Walker and McCutchen. Need one more bat for 3-4-5 if they're going to seriously threaten.
Maybe Alvarez could emerge and be that guy when he comes back but imagine an Aramis Ramirez or Hunter Pence, that would be a good fit.
I would love to trust your analysis, but the records of the Pirates over the last 15 years, lets me know, your baseball IQ has to be close to 0.
wildcats20
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Jul 18, 2011 5:16pm
Rolen is NOT in Pittsburgh right now. Not sure what that means, but I think he might be going away for awhile....
wildcats20
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Jul 18, 2011 5:16pm
se-alum;833467 wrote:I would love to trust your analysis, but the records of the Pirates over the last 15 years, lets me know, your baseball IQ has to be close to 0.
Yeah, fans of bad teams are not smart fans at all.
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 5:25pm
wildcats20;833472 wrote:Rolen is NOT in Pittsburgh right now. Not sure what that means, but I think he might be going away for awhile....
Rolen is in Pittsburgh, John Fay is not.
royal_k
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Jul 18, 2011 5:27pm
wildcats20;833473 wrote:Yeah, fans of bad teams are not smart fans at all.
+1
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 5:28pm
Rolen will be back in the lineup tomorrow, not sure if thats a good thing or not.
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 5:33pm
Interesting......would do that deal in a minute!
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wildcats20
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Jul 18, 2011 5:52pm
se-alum;833478 wrote:Rolen is in Pittsburgh, John Fay is not.
lol did I misread his tweet? I couldn't find it after I saw it the first time.
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 5:55pm
Do it!!!!!!
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 5:58pm
wildcats20;833501 wrote:lol did I misread his tweet? I couldn't find it after I saw it the first time.
No, the way he wrote it made it sound like Rolen wasn't in Pittsburgh, then he cleared it up on another question that he was not in Pittsburgh and Rolen was.
Non
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Jul 18, 2011 6:41pm
se-alum;833467 wrote:I would love to trust your analysis, but the records of the Pirates over the last 15 years, lets me know, your baseball IQ has to be close to 0.
I've always maintained there are exceptions even for bad teams.
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dave
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Jul 18, 2011 6:42pm
Damn, going to be a rain delay til at least 8. Casey and Grande calling the game, that might lead to the mute button and 700 for me.
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 7:10pm
dave;833535 wrote:Damn, going to be a rain delay til at least 8. Casey and Grande calling the game, that might lead to the mute button and 700 for me.
Thought Casey really improved his last time in the booth. Looking forward to hearing from The Mayor.
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 8:01pm
Let's go reds!!!
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dave
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Jul 18, 2011 8:02pm
If he didn't laugh when he can't think of something to say I could stand him.
Stubbs gets plunked just above the knee with 2 strikes. Solid start.
Stubbs gets plunked just above the knee with 2 strikes. Solid start.
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 8:05pm
Well done cozart. Stubbs goes 1st to 3rd
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dave
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Jul 18, 2011 8:09pm
great ABMidstate01;833586 wrote:Well done cozart. Stubbs goes 1st to 3rd
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 8:10pm
Damnit. You CAN'T k there Phillips.
se-alum
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Jul 18, 2011 8:13pm
Can't even get a flyball outta Votto or Phillips. C'mon Cairo!
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 8:14pm
Only positive if we don't score here will be morton's pitch count. But we've gotta start getting the job done with risp
Midstate01
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Jul 18, 2011 8:17pm
Looooong top of the first