Season over. I'm done with this team. Piss poor pitching hitting and managing.

Gettin ripped by new yorkers...callin the reds a faker this year. I can't disagree

I'll be happy when Thom absolutely rips Dusty's ass. Decent start, but there needs to be more.

Cordero only allowed 10 base runners in the 9th.

Hello my name is Aroldis....I'm effin unhittable.

Reds ownership really is going to have to do something quick. If they won't fire Dusty right now, they have to sacrifice one of the other coaches right now or else there will be nobody at the ballpark after the All-Star break.

CoCoa really sucks right now! 2 blown saves in his last 2 chances...and he looked absolutely terrible both occasions. Walked the leadoff pinch hitter is always a great start for the 9th! Something really does need to happen! There's still another half of the season to be played but you cannot afford to keep losing games like this and expect to be there at the end...

zach24oz;825279 wrote:CoCoa really sucks right now! 2 blown saves in his last 2 chances...and he looked absolutely terrible both occasions. Walked the leadoff pinch hitter is always a great start for the 9th! Something really does need to happen! There's still another half of the season to be played but you cannot afford to keep losing games like this and expect to be there at the end...

Where the hell have you been? He has always sucked while wearing the Reds uniform. His WHIP was god awful last year and it's not much better this year.

He has always sucked? I don't think he has been terrible every season w the Reds...he was an all-star with them 2 yrs ago and had 40 saves last season...I dont think that is too bad...But right now, yes, he does.

This is why I hate the way ends of games are managed. You use 5 relief pitchers for one inning or less to try to get the final 11 outs of the game and only end up getting 10 outs when the game is lost. If 1 of the 5 has a bad outing, you lose. One of 5 is way worse odds than 1 of 2.

Why take Ondrusek out when he struck out his only hitter on 7 pitches. Sure he is due up 3rd in the next half inning, and you want to try to keep your hitters sharp, but lets concentrate on winning today's game. There is two out and no one on -- let Ondrusek bat and continue pitching. There is too much emphasis on letting relief pitchers come in to start an inning. Let them go until they at least allow a baserunner, then consider making a change!

^^^ Coco has been shaky the past two and half seasons. The thing I remembered about last year is if you only had a 1-2 run lead, fasten your seatbelt. If he walked the first batter (and he did a lot), the lead and the game was in jeopardy.

How much longer until Dusty thinks about bringing in Chapman to go for his 2nd ML save? I don't think Dusty can sit through games like this everytime they have a 1-2 run lead and Cordero is in. Yes Chapman has had his moments of not throwing a single strike at times, but right now he looks very sharp! I think this could be Cordero's final run w the reds after the season...if not sooner.

Where's Wayne Granger when you need him?

Although Wayne Granger only spent 3 seasons with the Cincinnati Reds, he was inducted into the team's Hall of Fame in 1982. Those three seasons were dominant, however: in 1969, he pitched 144 ⅔ innings with a 9-6 record, 27 saves and a 2.80 ERA. In 1970, he led the National League with 35 saves and posted a 2.66 ERA, while in 1971, he pitched another 100 innings in 70 games in relief.

When Sparky started managing for the Reds in 1970 at the inception of the run of The Big Red Machine, Granger was the guy, when they blew away the NL competition to win the pennant. His 90 appearances that year were a new Major League record. Granger was a rail-thin pitcher who relied on a sinker to induce ground balls, and did not strike out many batters. His career high was 68 strikeouts in 1969, and that was in over 140 innings. He was however a real workhorse, standing among major league leaders for games and innings pitched in relief, games finished and saves, from 1969 to 1972. His 35 saves in 1970 were another Major League record at the time. He was named the Sporting News NL Reliever of the Year in both 1969 and 1970.


Randy Myers, Rawly Eastwick, John Franco, or Will McEnaney wouldn't be bad either!