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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 3, 2011 1:47pm
Inter-league play is here to stay. The average attendance tells the decision makers such.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 3, 2011 2:51pm
I find it sad that the dude is so bad defensively that he cant find his way on the field.karen lotz;820490 wrote:Hafner hasn't played in field since 2007. That is insane. Pretty much eliminates a big bat from games. What happens if the Indians reach the World Series this year? He's hitting almost .340 this year but will be limited to pinch hitting duties.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 3, 2011 2:54pm
royal_k;820492 wrote:Yeah, his inability to play the field is what really sucks. But he really can't throw the ball. His shoulder injury has made it impossible. Definitely a big concern if they were to make it that far.
Plenty of guys have played with a bad arm/shoulder. Pujols did it all of last year
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 3, 2011 3:01pm
jordo212000;820598 wrote:Plenty of guys have played with a bad arm/shoulder. Pujols did it all of last year
Yeah, but hafner is made of glass....I am not joking, he would be injured the first time he plays field
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 3, 2011 3:03pm
jordo212000;820598 wrote:Plenty of guys have played with a bad arm/shoulder. Pujols did it all of last year
Pujols' shoulder is not as fucked up as Hafners. Hafner has had multiple shoulder injuries/surgeries over the years. His shoulder really is glass.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 3, 2011 3:21pm
jordo212000;820598 wrote:Plenty of guys have played with a bad arm/shoulder. Pujols did it all of last year
His shoulder injury does not allow him to throw the ball. Therefore he can't play defense.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 3, 2011 3:23pm
Hafner didnt play much defense before the shoulder problems either though.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jul 3, 2011 3:24pm
ts1227;820518 wrote:I'd prefer uniform rules, but with where the game has gone, I would rather see the DH than not.
Back in the day, when pitchers could actually hit the ball, it was obviously not a problem to have them bat and it made sense.
I don't find it any more "pure" of a game in the NL TODAY because they have to work around an automatic out since pitchers have become specialists and can't hit shit.
Zach Britton is hitting .714. 2-2 with a HR and 2 runs scored today.
2-3 now after a strikeout.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 3, 2011 3:33pm
jordo212000;820621 wrote:Hafner didnt play much defense before the shoulder problems either though.
He split time at first....but he was never very good on defense.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 3, 2011 3:34pm
jordo212000;820621 wrote:Hafner didnt play much defense before the shoulder problems either though.
But he did play 1st until he suffered the elbow and shoulder injury. The fact is, I wouldn't risk it just for a regular season series.
World Series? Maybe. But his defense would lose us whatever he gave us offensively probably.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 3, 2011 6:03pm
pnhasbeen;820514 wrote:A pitcher is actually one-ninth of the outs if they go 0-3. Not sure where one-third came from.
I just found it funny that he started out commenting on "snobby NL fans" and then proceeded to make a snobby AL fan post about how boring NL ball is. The math fail just made it better.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 3, 2011 7:34pm
Well if you add kearns and Gomes in the lineup with pitcher it would be 1/3 of the outs
Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
Jul 3, 2011 7:37pm
Why stop with the DH?
Let's have designated runners, too. We can line up former college sprinters next to home plate, set to take off with the crack of the bat. For that matter, why make the great hitters play defense at all - lets's follow the AL logic and have separate rosters for hitters and fielders!
Let's have designated runners, too. We can line up former college sprinters next to home plate, set to take off with the crack of the bat. For that matter, why make the great hitters play defense at all - lets's follow the AL logic and have separate rosters for hitters and fielders!
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 3, 2011 7:50pm
jordo212000;820598 wrote:Plenty of guys have played with a bad arm/shoulder. Pujols did it all of last year
Jeff Bagwell
Hamler Bulldogs
Posts: 96
Jul 3, 2011 9:09pm
Should we get out the crying towels for all of the A.L players whose arms and shoulders are falling off,if they can't get healthy,RETIRE!LOL
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 3, 2011 11:37pm
karen lotz;820622 wrote:Zach Britton is hitting .714. 2-2 with a HR and 2 runs scored today.
2-3 now after a strikeout.
and 95% of the league is hitting under .100
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 3, 2011 11:48pm
ts1227;820766 wrote:and 95% of the league is hitting under .100
Hell, with this being the new Year of the Pitcher, it seems like 95 percent of position players are batting under .250. In today's Pittsburgh-Washington game, the Nats had one guy batting over .250 in their starting line-up and he was at .260. Morse and Nix also are above that (Morse at about .300 and Nix at .275 or so), but they were just pinch-hitting.
And with Pittsburgh, McCutchen (.295) and Presley (about 20-30 at bats) were the only guys with decent averages. Walker and Jones were both right around .250 and the rest were in the low .200s.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 3, 2011 11:49pm
I think half of the Tribe lineup is under .250 lol
Sage
Posts: 2,070
Jul 4, 2011 1:33pm
DH pretty whack. Also, has Fausto Carmona never ran a sprint in his life? Good golly.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 4, 2011 4:19pm
DH or no DH, the AL once again dominated the NL this season.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 4, 2011 4:27pm
Getting closer, though. 131-121, which is the tightest its been since 2004.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 4, 2011 4:34pm
Heretic;820992 wrote:Getting closer, though. 131-121, which is the tightest its been since 2004.
To me....that its pretty damn even. Although, I would rather get rid of interleague play and go back to balanced schedules
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jul 4, 2011 4:38pm
Interleague play should be the all star game and world series.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 4, 2011 4:40pm
wes_mantooth;820993 wrote:To me....that its pretty damn even. Although, I would rather get rid of interleague play and go back to balanced schedules
If they would do the situation where they blow up the divisions, there may be MORE interleague play as part of going back to a balanced schedule. (fact is it's not going to go anywhere as long as it continues to draw at the gate). There would basically be 1 series against everyone, interspersed throughout the year.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 4, 2011 4:44pm
ts1227;820998 wrote:If they would do the situation where they blow up the divisions, there may be MORE interleague play as part of going back to a balanced schedule. (fact is it's not going to go anywhere as long as it continues to draw at the gate). There would basically be 1 series against everyone, interspersed throughout the year.
Yeah, I have heard that. Not a fan at all. I am ok with a "rivalry" type series, but what normal fan gives a shit about a cleveland/arizona match up?!