hasbeen
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 10:57am
                            
                        
                                The mariners are 5-9 in this crap. 
Let's get back to the American League.
                        Let's get back to the American League.
Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:07am
                            
                        
                                Pirates were 8-7 this year, so it's good!
As opposed to last year, when they were 2-13 and interleague play was the work of the devil and anyone who liked it needed purged.
                        As opposed to last year, when they were 2-13 and interleague play was the work of the devil and anyone who liked it needed purged.
royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:10am
                            
                        
                                The biggest thing I have against interleague play is the non-use of the DH in NL parks.
                            
                        karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:12am
                            
                        
                                The biggest thing I have against baseball in general is the use of the DH in AL parks.
                            
                        royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:13am
                            
                        
                                BTW...the Mariners are 8-9 in interlegue play.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/?tcid=mm_mlb_standings
                        http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/?tcid=mm_mlb_standings
royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:13am
                            
                        karen lotz;820486 wrote:The biggest thing I have against baseball in general is the use of the DH in AL parks.
lol...good answer
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:18am
                            
                        
                                Hafner hasn't played in field since 2007.  That is insane. Pretty much eliminates a big bat from games.  What happens if the Indians reach the World Series this year? He's hitting almost .340 this year but will be limited to pinch hitting duties.
                            
                        hasbeen
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:20am
                            
                        royal_k;820487 wrote:BTW...the Mariners are 8-9 in interlegue play.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/?tcid=mm_mlb_standings
Where are you getting 8-9 from?
vs. Phi 2-1
vs. Wash 0-3
vs. Fla 2-1
vs. Atl 0-3
vs. SD 1-1
royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:24am
                            
                        karen lotz;820490 wrote:Hafner hasn't played in field since 2007. That is insane. Pretty much eliminates a big bat from games. What happens if the Indians reach the World Series this year? He's hitting almost .340 this year but will be limited to pinch hitting duties.
Yeah, his inability to play the field is what really sucks. But he really can't throw the ball. His shoulder injury has made it impossible. Definitely a big concern if they were to make it that far.
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:25am
                            
                        royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:25am
                            
                        pnhasbeen;820491 wrote:Where are you getting 8-9 from?
vs. Phi 2-1
vs. Wash 0-3
vs. Fla 2-1
vs. Atl 0-3
vs. SD 1-1
I haven't looked at their schedule...just going by the standings from mlb.com that says 8-9.
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:26am
                            
                        They swept 3 from the Padres in late May.pnhasbeen;820491 wrote:Where are you getting 8-9 from?
vs. Phi 2-1
vs. Wash 0-3
vs. Fla 2-1
vs. Atl 0-3
vs. SD 1-1
ts1227
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:27am
                            
                        
                                Seattle swept SD in May, there's the other 3 W's
                            
                        hasbeen
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:29am
                            
                        ts1227;820497 wrote:Seattle swept SD in May, there's the other 3 W's
Ahhh I didn't check back there.
Well, we're 5-9 in this last stretch and it sucks!
Writerbuckeye
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:45am
                            
                        
                                I love snobby NL fans.
Rag on someone who doesn't (or can't) play the field all you like -- I'd still rather see a game where a pitcher has to potentially face 9 real hitters than one where they can basically use one-third of the line-up to consistently get outs because most pitchers hit like 8 year old girls.
B-O-R-I-N-G.
                        Rag on someone who doesn't (or can't) play the field all you like -- I'd still rather see a game where a pitcher has to potentially face 9 real hitters than one where they can basically use one-third of the line-up to consistently get outs because most pitchers hit like 8 year old girls.
B-O-R-I-N-G.
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:48am
                            
                        
                                lol, snobby? I wasn't ragging on anyone.  I was pointing out that Hafner is pretty much useless in NL parks. I don't have anything against him.  I'd prefer both leagues play by the same rules, and not have the DH.  Look down your nose at the BORING NL some more, snob.
                            
                        royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:54am
                            
                        
                                My original post was not only based on liking the AL rules better, but the AL pitchers hitting are at a big disadvantage. They are not used to hitting and running the bases, which leads to injuries....like Carmona yesterday.
                            
                        royal_k
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:56am
                            
                        
                                I would just like to see a rule put in that you have the choice to use the DH, no matter where you are playing.....including the WS.
                            
                        dazedconfused
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 11:58am
                            
                        
                                i dont really care what set of rules they use, just make it uniform for both leagues
                            
                        hasbeen
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 12:04pm
                            
                        Writerbuckeye;820503 wrote:I love snobby NL fans.
Rag on someone who doesn't (or can't) play the field all you like -- I'd still rather see a game where a pitcher has to potentially face 9 real hitters than one where they can basically use one-third of the line-up to consistently get outs because most pitchers hit like 8 year old girls.
B-O-R-I-N-G.
A pitcher is actually one-ninth of the outs if they go 0-3. Not sure where one-third came from.
ts1227
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 12:13pm
                            
                        
                                I'd prefer uniform rules, but with where the game has gone, I would rather see the DH than not.
Back in the day, when pitchers could actually hit the ball, it was obviously not a problem to have them bat and it made sense.
I don't find it any more "pure" of a game in the NL TODAY because they have to work around an automatic out since pitchers have become specialists and can't hit shit.
                        Back in the day, when pitchers could actually hit the ball, it was obviously not a problem to have them bat and it made sense.
I don't find it any more "pure" of a game in the NL TODAY because they have to work around an automatic out since pitchers have become specialists and can't hit shit.
karen lotz
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 12:13pm
                            
                        
                                If they hit into 3 triple plays they are responsible for 1/3 of the outs.  Since they are such horrible hitters, that's probably what he was trying to say.
                            
                        like_that
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 12:24pm
                            
                        
                                Im in the minority, but I like interleague play, and I like to see how teams adjust to each league's rules.  My only knock on interleague play is the unfair scheduling.  Each team plays 18 interleague games, and 18 games can make a huge difference in a divisional pennant race.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 1:24pm
                            
                        like_that;820524 wrote:Im in the minority, but I like interleague play, and I like to see how teams adjust to each league's rules. My only knock on interleague play is the unfair scheduling. Each team plays 18 interleague games, and 18 games can make a huge difference in a divisional pennant race.
I agree with this.
TBone14
                                                                            
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                                Jul 3, 2011 1:32pm
                            
                        royal_k;820507 wrote:My original post was not only based on liking the AL rules better, but the AL pitchers hitting are at a big disadvantage. They are not used to hitting and running the bases, which leads to injuries....like Carmona yesterday.
I am sorry. Carmona is a professional baseball player. The man should be able to run 90 feet.
With that said, I enjoy interleague play. While it sucks that AL teams can use their DH in NL park, the AL also has a huge advantage at home because NL teams DH is typically their best pinch hitter.