grodt
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:22pm
                            
                        
                                IMO Phelps is the one that would be traded. Kipnis is the 2nd baseman of the future.
                            
                        Wooball
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:24pm
                            
                        grodt;815866 wrote:IMO Phelps is the one that would be traded. Kipnis is the 2nd baseman of the future.
True, Kipnis is definitely the better prospect, but depending on who the Tribe is trying to get they may demand Kipnis over Phelps
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:24pm
                            
                        Laley23;815865 wrote:I know your being sarcastic, but no. I think if anyone gets traded it will be Kipnis, because of his position (2B) being manned by Cord Phelps, in theory, for the future.
I don't know what sarcasm is.
But seriously, wouldn't it be nice if they would just hold on to some of these guys? This team DEFINITELY is heading in the right direction IMO. They just need to put it all together.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:25pm
                            
                        
                                It was refreshing to hear them say the Tribe was actually looking to bring in a player this year through trade.
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:26pm
                            
                        grodt;815866 wrote:IMO Phelps is the one that would be traded. Kipnis is the 2nd baseman of the future.
Ok. I assume if we trade, it will be one of them. Kinda sucks we have two 2nd baseman who are ML ready or very close, especially with the logjam at DH with Hafner and Santana taking the role each game.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:28pm
                            
                        
                                Sipps #'s are good, but am I the only one who gets nervous with a lead when he's out there?
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:29pm
                            
                        wildcats20;815870 wrote:I don't know what sarcasm is.
But seriously, wouldn't it be nice if they would just hold on to some of these guys? This team DEFINITELY is heading in the right direction IMO. They just need to put it all together.
Yes, but at SOME point Kipnis or Phelps will likely need traded. Both play 2nd, and are both ML ready. Need to get something for them. A little late to change positions with them. It is just nice to be trading them for players to HELP us NOW and not trading ML players to help later.
To win, ultimately, I think you need the right amount of home grown talent that pans out and that is your own coupled with a FA signing or 2 and a trade (typically a smaller one, because if you make a blockbuster you arent as close as other teams are to winning). I dont think we are there yet, but if we make the right FA signings this offseason, we could be that 1 trade away at this time next year.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:30pm
                            
                        hoops23;815882 wrote:Sipps #'s are good, but am I the only one who gets nervous with a lead when he's out there?
I used too. But that was more cause NCF was all over his jock, and I just never wanted that guy to be right lol. But Sipp has been a boss. Probably a top 5 reliever in the majors...but I dont really know relief numbers. But he has what, a sub 2 ERA and a .83 WHIP or something insane?
TBone14
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:36pm
                            
                        
                                I love the back end of our pen for the future. Need to lock up Sipp, Pestano and Perez longterm.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:37pm
                            
                        
                                Thankfully the Tigers have the Mets, Giants, and Angels coming up.
Hopefully the Tribe can just keep pace during this upcoming stretch.
                        Hopefully the Tribe can just keep pace during this upcoming stretch.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:39pm
                            
                        TBone14;815887 wrote:I love the back end of our pen for the future. Need to lock up Sipp, Pestano and Perez longterm.
...and the other Perez. I also like Joe Smith, always have. Glad he is showing what he can do this year after the injury hurt him recently. He gives a completely different look out of the pen which is very useful.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:39pm
                            
                        hoops23;815888 wrote:Thankfully the Tigers have the Mets, Giants, and Angels coming up.
Hopefully the Tribe can just keep pace during this upcoming stretch.
Hopefully the Giants throw Cain and Lincecum at them, but I dont know how it will match up.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:41pm
                            
                        Laley23;815891 wrote:Hopefully the Giants throw Cain and Lincecum at them, but I dont know how it will match up.
I think they miss both.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:41pm
                            
                        
                                This is a scary match-up.
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:41pm
                            
                        hoops23;815892 wrote:I think they miss both.
lol, Fuck. That.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:42pm
                            
                        
                                Of course Willy Mo leads off with a single.
                            
                        TBone14
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:43pm
                            
                        
                                Why isn't Wily Mo playing linebacker in the NFL? He is a mountian of a man.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:43pm
                            
                        
                                More Tribe fans in Zona than there are in Cleveland, smh...
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:48pm
                            
                        
                                LOL
So much for the bullpen.
                        So much for the bullpen.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:48pm
                            
                        
                                Christ. Just when we need it, our best portion of the team blows it.
                            
                        grodt
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:49pm
                            
                        
                                Damn of course the first time the bullpen messes up comes on the night the offense contributes
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:49pm
                            
                        
                                We need Pestano to do his patented 3 Ks in a row here.
                            
                        TBone14
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:49pm
                            
                        
                                If it isn't one thing..its another. Damn damn damn. Unreal.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:50pm
                            
                        
                                Seriously though, Kelley fucking Johnson.
The difference is though, Arizona is fouling off pitches, we just strike out.
                        The difference is though, Arizona is fouling off pitches, we just strike out.
Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 27, 2011 11:51pm
                            
                        hoops23;815915 wrote:Seriously though, Kelley fucking Johnson.
The difference is though, Arizona is fouling off pitches, we just strike out.
Yep. As I said on last thread. This team has the averages like the Tribe (ie, not very good), but when they hit it, its doubles, triples, and HRs.