
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:22pm
SportsAndLady;929501 wrote:Your original point was it was a stupid challenge because it's only 4-5 yards....that's so stupid. The point wasn't how many yards they'd gain, it's the dfiference between defending a 1st and 10 vs 3rd and 13.
You should know this non, you're a Steelers fan...their good football gives u intelligence.
Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.
0-0 score, midway through the first
There's so much that can happen.
But if they saw that back camera angle which showed it clearly, then it was a good challenge.
The first look when Gruden and Jaworski were questioning whether it was tipped or wobbly was not clear. That's what I was going off of.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 10, 2011 9:26pm
Lol again...Non;929505 wrote:Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.
0-0 score, midway through the first
There's so much that can happen.
But if they saw that back camera angle which showed it clearly, then it was a good challenge.
The first look when Gruden and Jaworski were questioning whether it was tipped or wobbly was not clear. That's what I was going off of.
Your point wasn't whether the challenge would be successful...it was because it was only a matter of 4-5 yards (which was completely untrue).

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 10, 2011 9:27pm
Megatron you fucking cheater.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Oct 10, 2011 9:28pm
Tell that to Lovie, SMHNon;929505 wrote:Too early to be left with one more challenge the rest of the game.
0-0 score
There's so much that can happen.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 10, 2011 9:28pm
lolMulva;929517 wrote:Megatron you fucking cheater.

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:29pm
my point was you can't risk losing it thereSportsAndLady;929514 wrote:Lol again...
Your point wasn't whether the challenge would be successful...it was because it was only a matter of 4-5 yards (which was completely untrue).
too early, Bears weren't even at the 50 yard line
you have to be sure you'll get the call

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 10, 2011 9:31pm
AgreedNon;929523 wrote:my point was you can't risk losing it there...because it's only 4-5 yards
Stupidity

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 10, 2011 9:32pm
That ridiculous. A chance to get the ball back versus a first and ten. you have 2 challenges, and 3 if you get them right. I dont know what you saw, but that ball was tipped in live action. Jaws said it immediately. The replay we saw showed it. It was a great challenge.Non;929523 wrote:my point was you can't risk losing it there
too early, Bears weren't even at the 50 yard line
you have to be sure you'll get the call

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:37pm
The live angle didn't show it was clearly tipped. You're just saying that now.Laley23;929531 wrote:That ridiculous. A chance to get the ball back versus a first and ten. you have 2 challenges, and 3 if you get them right. I dont know what you saw, but that ball was tipped in live action. Jaws said it immediately. The replay we saw showed it. It was a great challenge.
Jaws said he thought it must've been because Cutler throws the ball so well.
Then they all looked at the replay and nobody was sure. It was inconclusive.
The back angle when they showed several different ones confirmed it was tipped.
You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game. Coaches do that all the time they'll challenge one early first down catch and it won't mean anything to the outcome.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 10, 2011 9:38pm
non is a steelers fan, we must bow down to his knowledge.Non;929538 wrote:The live angle didn't show it was clearly tipped. You're just saying that now.
Jaws said he thought it must've been because Cutler throws the ball so well.
Then they all looked at the replay and nobody was sure. It was inconclusive.
The back angle when they showed several different ones confirmed it was tipped.
You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game. Coaches do that all the time they'll challenge one early first down catch and it won't mean anything to the outcome.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Oct 10, 2011 9:40pm
The thing is NFL teams have TVs where they can watch the replay to determine the "challengeability" of the call
Well, maybe the Bears don't
Well, maybe the Bears don't

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 10, 2011 9:40pm
Does a first half timeout really mean that much to you? lolNon;929538 wrote: You don't put that much stock into one possession like that early in the game.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 10, 2011 9:41pm
How many games a week does a team use 3 challenges? Id guess less than 15%

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:47pm
You only get two challenges per game. It's not about the timeout.SportsAndLady;929546 wrote:Does a first half timeout really mean that much to you? lol
If you miss that one, you only have one left the rest of the game.
More often than not being haphazard with the challenges will come back to haunt you.
That's not the case here because I realize they must've saw the conclusive angle.

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:50pm
Alright. It's no big deal.
I'm not going to argue about that play the whole game.
The essence of the point has been made and you know I'm right.
I'm not going to argue about that play the whole game.
The essence of the point has been made and you know I'm right.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 10, 2011 9:51pm
you have literally everyone arguing against you. I'd say you are wrong in this instance.Non;929562 wrote:Alright. It's no big deal.
I'm not going to argue about that play the whole game.
The essence of point has been made and you know I'm right.

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 9:54pm
Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.DeyDurkie5;929563 wrote:you have literally everyone arguing against you. I'd say you are wrong in this instance.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Oct 10, 2011 9:58pm
Not when they win the challenge.Non;929565 wrote:Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.
Thats the Jay Cutler the Bears paid for! His best drive of the year.

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 10:05pm
The Lions got the challenge but still have let the Bears go up and down the field and they trail 10-7
That situation didn't mean anything in hindsight.
Whether it was first down or 3rd and 13.
That situation didn't mean anything in hindsight.
Whether it was first down or 3rd and 13.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 10, 2011 10:11pm
you are an idiot. you should be a dolphins fan.Non;929565 wrote:Watch the rest of the year and you'll see games where coaches will challenge a short pass/trap play and lose a challenge and then later on they'll be out of them in a pivotal situation.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 10, 2011 10:12pm
You are so arrogant its insane. It didnt mean anything because the dumb Lions committed like 4 more penalties to give them first downs. You have the chance to get the ball back, you take it. To argue otherwise is ridiculous. Plenty of times in a game a play that early can be the difference. Id be stunned if Detroit needed 2 more challenges tonight.

Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 10, 2011 10:16pm
Think about it, right now at this point that did not mean anything.Laley23;929593 wrote:You are so arrogant its insane. It didnt mean anything because the dumb Lions committed like 4 more penalties to give them first downs. You have the chance to get the ball back, you take it. To argue otherwise is ridiculous. Plenty of times in a game a play that early can be the difference. Id be stunned if Detroit needed 2 more challenges tonight.
So if they had lost it, all they would've done is lose that challenge.
You understand?
People overreact to a first quarter situation. As it happens they think it's bigger than it is. Better to be cool and let the players play out the situations unless it's a really pivotal play.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 10, 2011 10:19pm
Lol this argument is still going on? Over something completely and totally irrelevant lol

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 10, 2011 10:20pm
lol non continues his idiocy.

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 10, 2011 10:21pm
Stafford has been pretty inaccurate so far minus the deep bomb.
Holy shit, how far back does Hanson start?
Holy shit, how far back does Hanson start?